D&D (2024) Humanoids in the MM...

[JEB]

The Human section of the 1E AD&D MM has, er...aged poorly.

And yet, it's basically the ancestor of the NPC section in the 2014 MM (and therefore the 2024 NPCs). Funny how these things work out!

 

[Parmandur]

And yet, it's basically the ancestor of the NPC section in the 2014 MM (and therefore the 2024 NPCs). Funny how these things work out!

Funny old world, for sure. I had never bothered reading that until 2024, and...yeah.

 

[MechaTarrasque]

There were celestial dwarves in Arcadia and celestial elves in Arborea, either of which could use the NPC stat blocks. Likewise, the fiendish orcs and hobgoblins of Archeron could use the NPC stat blocks. That being said, I wouldn't want to go overboard on that, it would be a little anticlimatic for a party to go the Outer Planes and fight orcs.

 

[Remathilis]

The updated list:
Aarakocra
Bugbear - FEY
Bullywug -FEY
Deep gnome (svirfneblin)
Drow
Duergar
Flind - FIEND
Githyanki
Githzerai
Gnoll - FIEND
Goblin - FEY
Grimlock
Half-red dragon veteran -DRAGON
Hobgoblin - FEY
Jackalwere
Kenku - monstrosity
Kobold - DRAGON
Kuo-toa - ABBERATION
Lizardfolk
Merfolk
Orc
Orog
Quaggoth - monstrosity
Sahuagin
Thri-kreen
Troglodyte
Werebear - monstrosity
Wereboar - monstrosity
Wererat - monstrosity
Weretiger - monstrosity
Werewolf - monstrosity
Yuan-ti pureblood - monstrosity

I wager a fair number of the remaining will probably be monstrosity or fey.

 

[Parmandur]

Predictions based on the xurrent unknowns:

Aberrations:

• Githyanki
• Githzerai
• Grimlock

Elemental:

• Aarakocra
• Merfolk

Replced with NPCs (since we know they are doing this):

• Deep gnome (svirfneblin)
• Drow
• Duergar
• Orc
• Orog

Monstrosity:

• Jackalwere
• Lizardfolk
• Sahuagin
• Thri-kreen
• Troglodyte

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Thai-Kreen are also Monstrosity.

 

[JEB]

The updated list:
Kenku - monstrosity
Quaggoth - monstrosity
Werebear - monstrosity
Wereboar - monstrosity
Wererat - monstrosity
Weretiger - monstrosity
Werewolf - monstrosity
Yuan-ti pureblood - monstrosity

Yep, sticking to my earlier prediction that "animal people" will generally translate to "monstrosity". (Though I figured quaggoth psionics would have made aberration more likely for them, guess they're seen as the former.)

 

[Micah Sweet]

Yep, sticking to my earlier prediction that "animal people" will generally translate to "monstrosity". (Though I figured quaggoth psionics would have made aberration more likely for them, guess they're seen as the former.)

Does this they're going to allow them to be evil as a species, since they're not humanoid anymore? Or is that just an excuse for gnolls?

 

[Parmandur]

Yep, sticking to my earlier prediction that "animal people" will generally translate to "monstrosity". (Though I figured quaggoth psionics would have made aberration more likely for them, guess they're seen as the former.)

"Monstrosity" seems to cover things that cross boundaries, so some are Fey-ish or Fiend-esque or Aberration-touched...

 

[Reynard]

Does this they're going to allow them to be evil as a species, since they're not humanoid anymore? Or is that just an excuse for gnolls?

Gnolls aren't monstrosities. They are fiends.