D&D General Drow & Orcs Removed from the Monster Manual

[Maxperson]

I think the problem is when pure fiction leans into the fantasies of the viewer, which frankly does happen. This is where having discussions about the media we consume does matter, but I don’t think we can lay the blame for how we treat violence as solely the fault of our entertainment.

Fantasies also do not have anything to do with real world morals unless you act on them, in which case they are no longer fantasies.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

And they are “little people”, just like they were in the older folktales (maybe closer to 3 foot than 1 foot).

They literally aren't. Why are you saying this lol? That's not reliably true in pop culture or mythology. You were talking about a Celtic revival days ago now you're 100% dismissing all Celtic myth in favour of late-medieval/Renaissance English takes because they're convenient lol? What is going on?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Totally. But we can still have dogs or wolves as a creature entry in general, I assume.

Sure. Anything could be a foe, it has nothing to do with species.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

They literally aren't. Why are you saying this lol? That's not reliably true in pop culture or mythology.

Pop culture elf:

You will find a great many similar images. Some make Dobby look tall.

 

[Scribe]

Pop culture elf:

cough

Or just look over the Dalle thread here if you want to see what an actual Elf is within pop culture.

 

[TwoSix]

Pop culture elf:
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You will find a great many similar images. Some make Dobby look tall.

Pop culture elf:

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Pop culture elf:
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That's not a fey elf, so you're doing a great job defeating your own argument lol. That's a Christmas Elf.

Pop culture fey elf with pop culture fey goblins:

Pop culture non-fey elf on left, pop culture non-fey goblins on right (er at least on my screen):

 

[AlViking]

Pop culture elf:
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You will find a great many similar images. Some make Dobby look tall.

Then of course there's barbarian dobbie.

 

[TwoSix]

cough

Or just look over the Dalle thread here if you want to see what an actual Elf is within pop culture.

I think the argument here is that's a big break between "generic Western culture" and "fantasy fiction-adjacent culture". Within Nerdspace, elves are pretty much always Tolkien elves. Outside that, not so much.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I think the argument here is that's a big break between "generic Western culture" and "fantasy fiction-adjacent culture". Within Nerdspace, elves are pretty much always Tolkien elves. Outside that, not so much.

Sure, but outside that they clearly split between "Christmas Elves" and "Fey" as two different and basically unrelated concepts, Fey being less common but certainly extant.