D&D (2024) Are the new default alignments of Goblins (CN) and Kobolds (N) more consistent with their current portrayals?

[Kobold Avenger]

And Bullywugs also got an alignment change too, they're Neutral now. I think most people had a hard time seeing them as evil too.

 

[Scribe]

Default alignments are dumb and should be ignored anyway

 

[the Jester]

Not for my campaign, no, but I emphasize long term continuity a lot more than many do. So changes to the lore or behavior of creatures often fly in the face of that continuity.

 

[ezo]

But is the new suggestions more consistent with how they're typically portrayed now?

By many people, probably, so I don't blame WotC for moving in that direction personally.

However, in my games the vast majority of the following races have the alignments below:

Lawful Evil
Hobgobilns
Duegar
Kobolds
Sahuagin

Neutral Evil
Bullyguys
Goblins
Kuo-toa
Lizardmen

Chaotic Evil
Bugbears
Drow
Gnolls
Orcs
Troglodyte

Of course there are always exceptions, such creatures of neutral or even good tendencies, who are exiled, hide their true nature, or band together.

 

[Oofta]

For my campaign it depends on their origin, but CN certainly fits their depiction in FR better.

 

[Kurotowa]

I noticed the alignments of Genies have changed as well, one problem with Efreet especially was that there might have been too much of an overlap with Devils when they were LE as they already look a lot like them. Of course just because Efreet and Dao are Neutral now, doesn't necessarily mean they're "nice" now.

Indeed. But it's saying "This evil genie is evil because they personally are a jerk, not because Efreet or Dao are culturally evil". And I think that's an improvement. They're a lot more useful, this way. More genie bargains, more genies as patrons or suppliers, that sort of thing.

 

[Garmel]

Are hobgoblins still Lawful Evil?

 

[Kobold Avenger]

Are hobgoblins still Lawful Evil?

Yes, and Bugbears are still CE

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

And Bullywugs also got an alignment change too, they're Neutral now. I think most people had a hard time seeing them as evil too.

Make them a playable ancestry, you cowards!

 

[Kobold Avenger]

Make them a playable ancestry, you cowards!

I don't think they're too complicated to make as a PC species.
Amphibious: You can breathe in water or air
Leap: You can leap 30 feet once per round using 10 feet of your movement
Speak with Frogs and Toads: You can communicate with frogs and toads by speaking to them.
Speed: Your walking speed is 30 feet and you have a swim speed of 30 feet
Size: You are medium size

Maybe the one that might have some arguments is their type which is either.
Creature Type: You are Fey
-OR-
Creature Type: You are Humanoid
Fey Ancestry: You have advantage saving throws to end or avoid the Charmed condition

Might be good enough, or might need just 1 more trait to be on par with other PC options.