Spoilers Star Wars: Andor season 2

[pukunui]

After rewatching Rogue One, the show flows into the movie really well.

The only continuity error I noticed was with Bail Organa’s appearance: his hair and goatee are grey at the end of Andor, but he’s only just going grey at the temples in Rogue One. (Different actors, I know, but there’s always hair dye …)

I also think I’m right about Saw Gerrera using his gas mask to breathe rhydonium. It’s not made explicit in the movie, but I think they added that detail into the show as an explainer for why he only takes occasional puffs from his mask in the movie.


EDIT: Also, I'd forgotten just how much of the movie Krennic spends on the back foot! We first see him all smarmy and confident when he comes to collect Galen. But then we next see him being scolded by Tarkin for the delays, and then after the successful test at Jedha, Tarkin undermines his "victory" by claiming the Death Star for himself, so Krennic goes to grovel to Vader and gets a mild choking for his efforts. He then returns to Tarkin, who sends him scurrying off to Eadu to confront Galen. He then rushes off to Scarif in a panic, where he spends the rest of the movie scrambling to stop the rebels only to get vaporized by his own weapon of mass destruction!

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I have to say, I like this Bail Organa better than the original. He seems warmer.

 

[Kaodi]

I liked the show and the finale but I am not entirely sure I appreciate how the ending torques the ending of Rogue One. Obviously it is good for Cassian. But it makes it seem lonelier for Jyn.

 

[pukunui]

I liked the show and the finale but I am not entirely sure I appreciate how the ending torques the ending of Rogue One. Obviously it is good for Cassian. But it makes it seem lonelier for Jyn.

If anything it makes the look they share in the elevator down to the beach a bit awkward, since Cassian knows Bix is out there waiting for him somewhere …

But yeah, everyone Jyn cared about has already died by the time she meets her end. And a prequel show about her misadventures as an abandoned rebel-turned-petty criminal wouldn’t be that interesting a show, I don’t think.


On an unrelated note, I thought it was interesting that they felt it worth showing us that Perrin was having an affair with Mrs Skuldun on Coruscant. I don’t think I ever cared enough about Perrin to feel the need to know how his story “ended”.

 

[trappedslider]

Glad Dedra survived so I can hold out hope for a Dedra as post ROJ warlord in the broken remnants of the empire

It appears she's in either the same or the same type of prison cassian was in in season one.

 

[pukunui]

It appears she's in either the same or the same type of prison cassian was in in season one.

Yeah, pretty sure it was meant to be the same place (Narkina 5) ... although as I recall, there were multiple prison compounds in the same area, so it's possible she wasn't in exactly the same one that Cassian had been in.

I was thinking about it last night, and I honestly don't think I could survive in a place like that. I think I'd be like that one guy in S1 who deliberately let the floor fry him.


(As an aside, I thought it was interesting that Partagaz was in trouble for letting Kleya escape, but Lagret seemed to have gotten away with no punishment for letting Mon Mothma escape. But I guess Partagaz's failure was more serious since Kleya was carrying the Death Star intel, whereas Mon didn't have any special knowledge. They just wanted to punish her for speaking out against the Emperor.)

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Luthen's ending was ... well, not unexpected. I didn't really have expectations. I suppose maybe that it would be to Cassian to kill him to protect the Rebellion. It being himself, and then Kleya, and it being without any great heroics, to take him out, just works.

I didn't see Pantagaz' end coming at all. But it makes sense, too. He failed his objective, two of the supervisors he relied and encouraged were either traitors or in their ambition screwed the Empire's plans, and one spectacularly failed. He would be sitting with Deidra in that good old work prison if he hadn't "collected his thoughts" like that. And they don't even realize the real extent of their failure until the Battle of Yavin. "Brittle", indeed.

I must, by the way, admit, that I didn't fully realize that the "Energy Project" was also the Death Star. I don't know why. Maybe because I expected that the people at their "Wannsee" conference would be aware of the Death Star. But even that highly classified clandestine meaning didn't reveal the real purpose. But Deidra figured it out eventually, and it didn't bother her. And in the end, she became sloppy, because she needed to get Axis personally.

It was great hearing Nemik again.
It's also great that there are more people still alive from Cassian's comrades then I expected. Of course, also some villains and antagonists are still around... Also, the reveal with Bix and B2-MO is very satisfying. Cassian appears to be one of the few heroes in fiction - Star Wars especially - to actually have off-spring.

 

[pukunui]

Luthen's ending was ... well, not unexpected. I didn't really have expectations. I suppose maybe that it would be to Cassian to kill him to protect the Rebellion. It being himself, and then Kleya, and it being without any great heroics, to take him out, just works.

The reveal that he was "nothing more" than a disillusioned soldier who took a stray orphan under his wing was a bit underwhelming. I guess I'd been secretly hoping that he was something more ... not necessarily a Jedi himself but I dunno. It just felt like there was more to him in S1 - the kyber crystal he lent to Cassian as collateral, the walking stick that looked like it had a lightsaber hilt built in, the speech he gave Lonnie, the fancy spaceship with the red lightsaber-ish secret weapon. (I would have liked to see that ship in action some more!)

I didn't see Pantagaz' end coming at all. But it makes sense, too. He failed his objective, two of the supervisors he relied and encouraged were either traitors or in their ambition screwed the Empire's plans, and one spectacularly failed. He would be sitting with Deidra in that good old work prison if he hadn't "collected his thoughts" like that. And they don't even realize the real extent of their failure until the Battle of Yavin. "Brittle", indeed.

That's a good point! It wasn't just that he'd let Kleya escape with knowledge of the Death Star. It was that several of his underlings had seemingly gone rogue.

I must, by the way, admit, that I didn't fully realize that the "Energy Project" was also the Death Star. I don't know why. Maybe because I expected that the people at their "Wannsee" conference would be aware of the Death Star. But even that highly classified clandestine meaning didn't reveal the real purpose. But Deidra figured it out eventually, and it didn't bother her. And in the end, she became sloppy, because she needed to get Axis personally.

Really? I got that from the moment Krennic first mentioned it.

It was great hearing Nemik again.

Agreed!

It's also great that there are more people still alive from Cassian's comrades then I expected. Of course, also some villains and antagonists are still around... Also, the reveal with Bix and B2-MO is very satisfying. Cassian appears to be one of the few heroes in fiction - Star Wars especially - to actually have off-spring.

Indeed. Yes. As sad as it is knowing that Bix and Cassian never got to reunite, it's nice knowing that Bix at least got a happy ending (as did B2)!

 

[billd91]

The reveal that he was "nothing more" than a disillusioned soldier who took a stray orphan under his wing was a bit underwhelming. I guess I'd been secretly hoping that he was something more ... not necessarily a Jedi himself but I dunno. It just felt like there was more to him in S1 - the kyber crystal he lent to Cassian as collateral, the walking stick that looked like it had a lightsaber hilt built in, the speech he gave Lonnie, the fancy spaceship with the red lightsaber-ish secret weapon. (I would have liked to see that ship in action some more!)

I'm actually content with that origin. One thing I really enjoyed about the Andor stories is the relative lack of Jedi and Jedi legacy. It's about "normal" people or at least more normal people than the force users who dominate too much of the Star Wars movie landscape.

That's a good point! It wasn't just that he'd let Kleya escape with knowledge of the Death Star. It was that several of his underlings had seemingly gone rogue.

Yeah, the ISB risking Death Star intel by mishandling secrets would be a pretty major stain on his record. But he was significantly placed enough, at least, that he got to kill himself rather than be force-choked by Palpatine's attack dog.
Though I have to say that they weren't the only slip ups since Dedra Meero did receive that sensitive intelligence accidentally - she just read it and didn't dispose of it appropriately which left it vulnerable.

Indeed. Yes. As sad as it is knowing that Bix and Cassian never got to reunite, it's nice knowing that Bix at least got a happy ending (as did B2)!

I love the fact that Bix and Junior, healthy and far away from the war, were the last shot we see. I thought that was brilliant and beautiful.

 

[MarkB]

It was great hearing Nemik again.

And even better to find out that, at some point, Cassian did manage to get his manifesto spreading, and that it's now so widely disseminated that the ISB haven't a hope of containing it.