D&D General The Purple Dragon Knights are tied to an Amethyst Dragon (confirmed)

[Scribe]

That was 616 Sammaster tho. We now have 828 Sammaster to deal with now!

About as great an illustration of why 'multiverse' stuff sucks as one is going to see.

 

[mellored]

About as great an illustration of why 'multiverse' stuff sucks as one is going to see.

Really it's the only way to explain how everyone gets a different campaign in the same world.

 

[QuentinGeorge]

Really it's the only way to explain how everyone gets a different campaign in the same world.

Why on earth does that need to be explained?

 

[Nikosandros]

I my own games, I don't really have this whole multi-verse thing. What I have though, is that - with very few exceptions - each campaign that I run is a new and separate "instance" of the "world". So, my last Greyhawk campaign for 5e was separated from my previous AD&D one and whatever happened to the world or the characters in one of the games has no bearing on the other campaign. In the same vein, one campaign might only have "AD&D" races, while the other might have strong communities of dragonborns and tiefliengs around.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Thanks. I still wouldn't call that MCU style like what we're seeing in the latest Marvel movies or the Loki TV show. Yes, it talks about "parallel worlds" but I still think they're referring to something different. I take it as being that the Material Plane, the Ethereal Plane, the Outer Planes, etc are "parallel worlds". There's no mention of there being multiple parallel versions of Oerth, each with its own take on Mordenkainen and Tenser and Tasha and so on. That's what I mean by MCU-style parallel worlds.

@Parmandur quoted a snippet from one in ... oh boy ... a multi-part (like five?) essay I wrote on this.

But the original Gygaxian multiverse was like the MCU. In other words, there were an infinite number of parallel words- containing all possibilities. This allowed (for example) all possible home campaigns, so your home campaign in Greyhawk going through Tomb of Horrors existed in the same general multiverse as someone else's home campaign in Greyhawk going through Tomb of Horrors, and both existed in the same general multiverse as Boot Hill.

Oerth and Aerth and Yarth and Uerth and our Earth, in all possibilities, also existed in the multiverse (as well as Faerun etc.).

 

[Nikosandros]

@Parmandur quoted a snippet from one in ... oh boy ... a multi-part (like five?) essay I wrote on this.

But the original Gygaxian multiverse was like the MCU. In other words, there were an infinite number of parallel words- containing all possibilities. This allowed (for example) all possible home campaigns, so your home campaign in Greyhawk going through Tomb of Horrors existed in the same general multiverse as someone else's home campaign in Greyhawk going through Tomb of Horrors, and both existed in the same general multiverse as Boot Hill.

Oerth and Aerth and Yarth and Uerth and our Earth, in all possibilities, also existed in the multiverse (as well as Faerun etc.).

I think that, back in the day, this "multiverse" approach was very important because players moved often from one game to the other and brought their PCs with them (witness all the discussion about this topic in the DMG). Personally, that's not something that ever happened to me, so it was never an important aspect in my experience.

 

[mellored]

Why on earth does that need to be explained?

It doesn't need to affect your campaign at all. You can easily ignore it.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

By the way, while we are talking about the multiverse, I wanted to offer this trivia.

I wanted to call it a "fun fact," but it isn't. It's one of those things I wish I could unlearn. And since I can't, I'm going to inflict it on everyone else.

Oerth (the world that Greyhawk is on) ... how do you think it is pronounced?

Go on.

Oerth. How do you pronounce it? Say it out loud to yourself.

If you're like me, you probably pronounce it something like O-erth. (Slight stress on a long O, followed by earth)

But how was it actually pronounced? By Gygax? Do you really want to know?

I'll put it in spoilers, because, trust me, you can't unlearn this.

OY-th, as if you had a strong Brooklyn accent. I'm sorry.

 

[Nikosandros]

By the way, while we are talking about the multiverse, I wanted to offer this trivia.

I wanted to call it a "fun fact," but it isn't. It's one of those things I wish I could unlearn. And since I can't, I'm going to inflict it on everyone else.

Oerth (the world that Greyhawk is on) ... how do you think it is pronounced?

Go on.

Oerth. How do you pronounce it? Say it out loud to yourself.

If you're like me, you probably pronounce it something like O-erth. (Slight stress on a long O, followed by earth)

But how was it actually pronounced? By Gygax? Do you really want to know?

I'll put it in spoilers, because, trust me, you can't unlearn this.

OY-th, as if you had a strong Brooklyn accent. I'm sorry.

What is the source for this? I'm not asking because I doubt the veracity, but because I'd like to erase that source from the face of Oerth, no, I mean Yarth erm... Earth.

 

[GarrettKP]

By the way, while we are talking about the multiverse, I wanted to offer this trivia.

I wanted to call it a "fun fact," but it isn't. It's one of those things I wish I could unlearn. And since I can't, I'm going to inflict it on everyone else.

Oerth (the world that Greyhawk is on) ... how do you think it is pronounced?

Go on.

Oerth. How do you pronounce it? Say it out loud to yourself.

If you're like me, you probably pronounce it something like O-erth. (Slight stress on a long O, followed by earth)

But how was it actually pronounced? By Gygax? Do you really want to know?

I'll put it in spoilers, because, trust me, you can't unlearn this.

OY-th, as if you had a strong Brooklyn accent. I'm sorry.

Wait, this isn’t how everyone says it?