D&D and the rising pandemic

I don't know that more data would really have been helpful to the typical citizen.

County by county with measurable goals tied to the hospitals felt like a smaller ask than statewide until "the governor felt like it". But I would fully believe any ask by the government would be too much for some
 

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County by county with measurable goals tied to the hospitals felt like a smaller ask than statewide until "the governor felt like it".

County by county means that, as you go about your business, you have to keep track of what county you are in, and the current status of each of them. While this may be okay for folks who are working from home, for someone like my wife, whose work can easily take her into four different counties in a single day, that's just not practical. If it isn't easy people won't do it. If people won't do it, it isn't effective.

In addition, it isn't like the CDC had the ability to give such guidance from day one! This new guidance is built from a couple years of experience unlike anything in the past century.
 

Yes, but I don't know that the call was particularly effective. We have all those "rugged individualists" who aren't all that interested in helping their neighbors.

I don't know that more data would really have been helpful to the typical citizen.
Ah, yes. The "rugged individualists." AKA "Those with no sense of community."
 

County by county means that, as you go about your business, you have to keep track of what county you are in, and the current status of each of them. While this may be okay for folks who are working from home, for someone like my wife, whose work can easily take her into four different counties in a single day, that's just not practical. If it isn't easy people won't do it. If people won't do it, it isn't effective.

Being in a southern state, all the rules down here varied by city/town. And in a lot of metro areas there are folks crossing state lines where it might change. ::🤷::

Doing the recommendations by MSA would at least make what one is recommended to do easier. I'm doubtful it would fix the patchwork of varying rules for many states.

In addition, it isn't like the CDC had the ability to give such guidance from day one! This new guidance is built from a couple years of experience unlike anything in the past century.

I'm hoping that some of the things learned from the past two years won't be chucked by the eventual change-overs in administration, and next pandemic it won't take two years to get to something like this.

My big fear next pandemic is that there are a lot of states where the governor will no longer have the power to do emergency things, or where the state legislature will need to change the law to allow for mask/vaccine/whatnot requirements.
 

Being in a southern state, all the rules down here varied by city/town. And in a lot of metro areas there are folks crossing state lines where it might change. ::🤷::

And, broadly speaking, how did that work out for southern states? Not too well, as I understand it. When trying to drive compliance, simplicity often beats accuracy.

My big fear next pandemic is that there are a lot of states where the governor will no longer have the power to do emergency things, or where the state legislature will need to change the law to allow for mask/vaccine/whatnot requirements.

Hopefully, it will be long enough in the future that state governments will have recovered their senses.
 

And, broadly speaking, how did that work out for southern states? Not too well, as I understand it. When trying to drive compliance, simplicity often beats accuracy.

I mean, if we went for one uniform state rule it probably would have ended up being no masking or closures and been even worse :.-(

The remembering which towns required masks or not didn't seem too hard. If they changed a lot I could see it getting annoying. Trying to remember three color codes would be a lot worse-- but I'm guessing most people would just remember if they should personally mask for yellow or orange and make it two categories.

Hopefully, it will be long enough in the future that state governments will have recovered their senses.

It just makes me sad that my state seems to gradually becoming relatively less embarrassing, but only because so many other states are making even stranger and stranger decisions.
 
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USA's excess death rates where horrible over the pandemic.

Like, their best states competed with Canada's worst provinces.

They did better than Brazil/Russia/SA/Mexico and the like, slightly.
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My big fear next pandemic is that there are a lot of states where the governor will no longer have the power to do emergency things, or where the state legislature will need to change the law to allow for mask/vaccine/whatnot requirements.
The Indiana legislature is in session currently. One bill under discussion would a!low the Governor to declare an emergency and take action he deems necessary (this is current procedure) but after 30 days he would have to get the Legislature's permission to extend the declaration and continue the measures.

In large part this is because we are coming up to 30-Day Extension # 24 of the original 30-day state of emergency. If the measures taken are not making a dent in the problem - because they are inadequate or misdirected or whatever the reason - getting advice and help and resources to better address the problem (plus an implied vote of confidence / no-confidence) should not be controversial.
 

In large part this is because we are coming up to 30-Day Extension # 24 of the original 30-day state of emergency. If the measures taken are not making a dent in the problem - because they are inadequate or misdirected or whatever the reason - getting advice and help and resources to better address the problem (plus an implied vote of confidence / no-confidence) should not be controversial.

If the decision-making on the legislature is rational, it probably wouldn't be. I'm rather unconvinced that describes all (perhaps even a majority) of them in the U.S.
 

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