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Thanks a lot, some cool places mentioned. I'm not really planning on doing any game-related shopping (but hey, I might have a few hours to kill while waiting for friends). so far we're planning on the cloisters, a few friends mentioned an air-craft carrier to visit. We've also got a couple...

Yes I think your definition of minor cheating is reasonable, and I would say I share the same definition. And I would still object to it for reasons that have been given time and time again. It is the very act, not the motivations or the repercussions that I object to. Motivations and...

Well then I would consider you to be lucky. I've been gaming for over a decade now and have had a number of cheaters in my games. Some examples: 1) One guy would fudge his rolls almost as a joke (it wasn't a very serious game) but we ended up tolerating it and introducing a 1 mulligan/night...

Bingo! This is the point I've wanted to make. Despite their motivations or intentions, I think cheating has a fundamentally negative impact on the game. Someone might be able to justify their reasons for cheating, but there is a fundamental element of deceit that is still attached to the act...

Ok maybe a little sly I admit :) I honestly do not think people cheat for group benefit, or as a means of improving the game for others very often. Maybe there are a few people out there who do it (and are posting in this thread to provide a devil's advocate point of view), but I would...

I received a 20 Gig iPod as a gift last year, but after about 6 months or so it started going on the fritz. The internal disk drive seems messed up so all my songs skip now. I've been having trouble getting through the Apple support system to get it fixed/replaced. I was using it while...

Some friends and I will be spending our upcoming holiday weekend in New York City and I'm looking for ideas on stuff to either visit and/or do while there. We're driving down on a friday so we should be arriving sometime friday evening, and we plan to leave Monday early afternoon. We'll be...

I also loved the idea of spells that are part of more than one school of magic, even though there's only one example that I noticed on my first pass through. Anything that expands the design and options of the game, even in small ways, is great.

True, in this case the player is being rude no matter what. However, I still feel there is a fundamental difference between being an uncooperative player who hogs the limelight in a game, and one who does so AND cheats in order to accomplish it. To use an arguably poor example: stealing is bad...

So far I think we're all talking about similar but, at the same time, vastly different topics: 1) Is it ok to tolerate minor amounts of cheating amongst friends? This implies the cheating has no significant impact on the game, nor does it occur in a way that would (beyond the act of cheating...

Well I agree here, in neither case would I consider kicking a player out at first offence (or even after multiple offences). As much as cheating in the game annoys me, I can tolerate it to a limit for the sake of friendship. In fact, it has almost become a running joke in our own game because of...

I think I'll concede this point. I do think doing harm is part of the problem, and does probably derail this discussion from the original topic of "minor" cheating to "major" cheating. Let me see if I can get back on topic (hard I know... I ramble) I think I'll use the following as my...

Well 3 things come to mind here. 1) I don't even know if I would consider that situation you describe to be cheating. As far as I'm aware, there's nothing in the books that says that die rolls are used to measure failure. They are used as a means of generating possible success. I would say what...

I will concede this point. It is true that the core problem is that the player seems to feel a need to be demonstratably better than the other players. The cheating is simply making the problem worse. When we game every player is hoping to have their moment to shine in the game, whether it is...

I think the big problem, and why I find even minor fudging to be aggrevating, is that this is a slippery slope. At what point is it no longer minor fudging? Sure, saying you got a die roll of 15 when it was really a 10 is probably minor. But is saying it's a 20 when it was a 7 significantly...

Cheating bothers me a lot. I don't understand the need by some players to cheat in the game, either through fudging dice rolls, or creative accounting. I figure some players do it so they can "win" at the game, which is an absurdity in itself. Others do it so their character will survive...

I've always tried to encourage my players to try unusual combat techniques, if for no other reason than to make our combat sessions more interesting. Last night, for example, the characters were at the edge of an underground chasm (only 30 feet high though) when a dire bat attacked. One...

I don't see a major problem with using a druid in the campaign. In fact I think the versatility offered by a druid focused on wildshaping and summoning will be quite useful in the campaign. And while the focus of the campaign is mostly on urban and dungeon environments, there are a few times...

We just had our first party casualty last week. The party was investigating the goblins beneath Cauldron and were ambushed by several goblins and a worg. The battle itself wasn't too hard, but the party's elven warlock chased after a fleeing goblin adept. He managed to kill the creature, but was...

Well my copy of the signed deluxe edition came in the mail early last week. Finally, after many months of waiting it arrived. Of course, I haven't had a chance to even open it up yet. Sadly I've been out of town since the day before it arrived on a business trip, so it is just sitting at home...