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Yes, that's the ultimate bottom line. I don't believe I've ever disputed that. You really can't say that unequivocally, because respecting legitimate authority is part of the code, and gross violations of the code can result in the loss of powers. Absolutely. The god's judgment about...

You're playing semantics. Yes, that's part of the paladin code of conduct. Part. One small part. If a paladin uses that to justify killing a captive without making any serious attempt to learn any additional details beyond what he thinks he saw--fine, that's his prerogative. But then he's...

And there are no accusers if you snap their necks before they can make any accusations to the proper authorites in the city, right? Clever, but this kind of logical kinda goes against the whole Lawful Good alignment thing that paladins have. No; not even close. I won't argue the definition...

I'm not certain that I get what you're saying. I think it's something along the lines of "Isn't an overzealous paladin follower better than no follower at all?" Depends. If Heironeous wants to risk becoming known as "Heironeous Halfling-Killer" or doesn't mind the change in portfolio from...

Very possible. Me, I'm leaning more towards thinking that this is a paladin trap or at least a test set up by the DM. (Not that I'm wholly for or against such scenarios; it usually depends on the subtlety or lack thereof IMO). And this might be brilliantly subtle. Maybe the intruders' plan...

The flip side of that coin: Sometimes the most dangerous do-gooders ar those that don't act within the code of law of their society (or act outside the tenets of the god they claim to serve). So being a prestigious paladin is no reason for leniency. Heironeous should strip this guy of his...

It's nice to see a DM that runs his villains intelligently. Now while his nemesis is without his special powers (or off atoning, or off at blackguard college, or whatever), the villain and his minions can finish whatever evil plans they have in regards to the paladin's wife. Brilliant! ;)

Maybe Semi-Relevant, Maybe Not I happened to be watching "The Fellowship of the Ring" tonight, and Gandalf says these words right after Frodo says that Gollum deserves death: "Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to...

Other people were arriving on the scene??!! There were witnesses to the paladin's actions??!! OMG...can it get any sweeter than this for the DM? :D

Thanks a million! I just noticed another major detail of this situation, thanks to you! :)

Stooge Consideration One of the reasons I think there's a decent chance the halfling's either a stooge or being blackmailed is because he didn't escape himself. The other baddies were able to use a teleport-like ability to zip away. Why didn't the halfling? Maybe because the paladin had...

I was being sarcastic with the Silent Spell comment, but yeah--it's a consideration, however unlikely. As is the possibility of coersion--magical or otherwise--in the case of the halfling distractor. All this talk about how medieval law worked forgets that D&D also has magic, and that changes...

In response to the quote: "Does the phrase 'imminent danger' mean anything to you?" Meaning...that the halfling was obviously casting a Silent Spell? If this is the case, then the alleged paladin's action of killing a subdued captive should damn him: a REAL paladin of Heironeous should show...

No, no, NO! Anger Management classes taught by a priest of Yondalla :lol:

Wow. Saying that his motivation was anger and not just vengeance is bad. Scary bad. Think of all the things we get angry about: having the phone ring during dinner, missing remote controls, stubbing your toe on something, etc. There's a whole lot of things that we get mad about on a regular...

Excellent point. And I'm not just talking about the player of the paladin. What about the player of the cleric and his PC? I've been wondering what faith he belongs to and how he'd react to the paladin's brand of justice. Lots of potential stuff brewing here.

Excellent point, and probably right on the money for what the paladin in this case did. Selective hearing. Selective reasoning. Perhaps selective picking of his god's tenets to justify his actions. To quote the PHB, "Heironeous promotes justice, valor, chivalry, and honor." He could cry...

Hee hee! The best part of this is that I think the halfling probably IS evil and deserving of a pretty harsh penalty. There's just enough of a whiff of stooge about him that I think he's entitled to a quick Detect Evil from the paladin before the penalty is decided.

*SNAP!!* Paladin: "What? I was just using my "lay on hands" ability...."

Yep, and wouldn't it be cool if the main gate into and out of the city just happened to pass through its "Halflingtown" neighborhood. And even cooler if the paladin happened to have a halfling servant in his manor who witnessed the 'dispensation of justice'...nah, let's have him walk up as the...