2006 ENnies Judge Voting Poll/Thread

[diaglo]

Diaglo is one of the best-known folks on these boards. If Hong had run, he might beat Diaglo, but none of the rest of us really stand a chance. For JoeG - he won handily last year, though he had to recuse himself, there's no reason to think he'd preform less well than previously. The rest of you are both popular, and incumbent. The lack of contest was pretty obvious.

I don't think hong can run. he doesn't live in North America.

I threw my hat in just like everyone else.

 

[Cthulhu's Librarian]

I don't think hong can run. he doesn't live in North America.

I don't believe that was a requirement to be a judge. The only one is that the submissions coordinator live in the US for ease of shipping.

 

[Dextra]

BTW, MW, thank you for the colour commentary!

After three days the voting has slowed down, at 408 votes this is 75% of last years turnout.

We have seven people running this election who also ran in the last election. All but one have a higher percentage of the vote, in spite of there being more canidates (Mixmaster is running 1/2 of one percent behind last year.) The most dramatic change is Xath who doing twice as well (percentage wise) than last year.

So it seems that just running for Ennies Judge can help in future elections.

2006 Judges Election (17 candidates, 7 from previous year) 

[color=red]Teflon Billy (Jeff Ranger)    			285 	69.85% [/color]
[color=orange]Crothian (Chris Gath)    			263 	64.46% [/color]
[color=yellow]JoeGKushner (Joe G Kushner)    		        244 	59.80% [/color]
[color=green]Cthulhu's Librarian (Richard J. Miller), SC     220 	53.92% [/color]
diaglo (David Temporado)    			138 	33.82% 

Ankh-Morpork Guard (Graham Johnson)    	         94 	23.04%
[color=plum]Xath (Gertie Barden), SC    			 84 	20.59%[/color]
[color=blue]Umbran (Arnis Kletnieks)    			 62 	15.20% [/color]

Keeper of Secrets (Matthew Muth)    		 61 	14.95% 

trancejeremy (Jeremy Reaban)    		 46 	11.27% 
nakia (Nakia S. Pope)    			 42 	10.29% 
Quickbeam (Kevin Bopp), SC    		         37 	 9.07% 

RavenHyde (Selma McCrory)    		         36 	 8.82% 
Tarondor (Scott Nolan), SC    		         30 	 7.35% 
[color=purple]Mixmaster (Leslie Foster), SC    		 27 	 6.62% [/color]
JediSoth (Hans Cummings)    		         22 	 5.39% 
Eridanis (Matt Bogen), SC    			 18 	 4.41%

 

[Dextra]

Submission Coordinator position

Makes sense, at least from a cost point of view. I'm sure those who have been judges before have kicked this around a bit already and know more about the cost/benefits than I do. Still, it seems like A LOT of extra work, on top of the significant work associated with judging.

I suspect that we will continue to have a Submissions Coordinator so long as the publishers want to have a central shipping location (rather than shipping out to the judges individually).

Personally, I don't like the SC being a judge, because it means communication between a judge and the publishers. I'm not saying that there has ever been any kind of problem created by that relationship, and I don't anticipate one, but I'd like to avoid any possibility of impropriety.

But for this year at least, we will have a judge SC, so I'm trying to alleviate some of the stress from that job by taking away some of the work. For example, I (or a staff member) will help maintain a database of the products shipped, entered, received, etc. I will keep track of the entry forms and cheques and payments. Hopefully, that will mean that the SC's job will be limited to receiving product, splitting it into piles, and shipping it out again. No mean task, but at least without the administrivia part of it, it should make the SC's life a little easier.

 

[Dextra]

If people want term limits, they have to show that these limits will increase turnout/legitimacy; if they can't, I'm not sure what these limits are for.

I think that there are other reasons other than a potential increase in voter turnout for making sure that we have at least once new judge every year. My main concern is publisher participation.

If year after year a publisher submitted products never to be nominated by the same set of judges, they would probably (or may already have) decide to not bother sending in product in the future, since the current set of judges is not impressed by their stuff, etc.

In the grand scale of things, the number of ENWorlders who choose to vote for a judge (well, within reason- so long as we maintain around 500 voters I think we can claim quorum) is less important to me than the number of publishers who choose to enter product.

It is definitely important to encourage increased voter turnout, especially from those who in the past may have questioned some of the judges' choices. I suspect that opening up the voting to everyone and not just EN World members via a voting booth on the ENnies site might help- that way all gamers, not those who haunt ENW could feel more a part of the process. The increased tension of the secret ballot could also be an enticement. I also want to figure out a mechanic by which at least one new judge would be selected every year. Perhaps this could be accomplished by having three categories:
1. Incumbents: 3 positions.
2. n00b: 1 position
3. Wild Car: 1 position: can be a n00b, can be someone with judge experience
BUT, this assumes that in the future that current voter trends will hold true.

BTW, I'm also interested to hear what you have to say about voting systems. If we've got a field of candidates of 15-25 peeps and we only want to choose five, how do we pull it off? Would the same system we have in place for the product selection work? If so, should we limit each person to how many judges they can choose (say, 7?), or does that mess with the system?

 

[MavrickWeirdo]

BTW, MW, thank you for the colour commentary!

You are welcome (actually I'm just improving my postcount/visibility for a future run for ENnies Judge)

Here is my suggestion for increasing participation in judge elections.


Put the 2007 Judge Canidates on the 2006 ENnies ballot.

It would increase voter participation.

That would also give you the "hidden results" that everyone agrees is needed. (Technically it is not a secret ballot, because those who count the votes can tell who voted for whom.)

Third it would give you early results on judges.


I do have a comment on a "hidden results" election. Suspence (waiting for results) can be "dramatic", but if stretched over a long period of time it will loose it's strength. Part of the reason that you got good voter participation was:

I just checked the polls and I can tell you this is shaping up to be very, very exciting. As of now 3,933 ballots have been cast. The outcomes of 8 races are in doubt (less than 50 votes between candidates) and one of them is currently tied!!!

So get out the vote folks - it will still count.

Also, if you have voted in the main ENnies but not in the Fan's Choice award then go vote in the Fan's Choice election. These two elections use seperate tally systems so you can participate on each one seperately.

As a reminder, I will close the polling system at the strike of midnight EST on the 8th. The Fan's Choice award will remain open a little longer (I don't know off hand how much longer).

Those "teasers" kept people interested in the absence of any other information.

 

[Belen]

You know, I would really like to see a female judge this time around.

 

[Arnwyn]

So people, I'd be interested to know what has influenced your choice in judge selection.

For me, it was:

Familiarity/agreement with their views
Quality and/or Number of Reviews posted
Campaign speech [most were weak and uninformative, but there were a couple of gems]
Past experience and/or performance as ENnies judge

Except that the last one caused me to vote in the "opposite direction". I steered very clear of the incumbents, as I have been less than impressed with past Ennie product nominations. I was hoping for new blood (who might be more likely to prefer what I prefer). The last few Ennies had me scratching my head when looking at what was nominated.

Also, what do you think makes for a good judge?
Shared bias with your preferences?

That's the one for me.

For me, as a consumer, "good" = "what I like" (and what I find useful for my particular game).

 

[Teflon Billy]

You know, I would really like to see a female judge this time around.

I'll quote "The_Universe" from back in post #57

And the presence of a Y chromosome effects RPG product judging how?

Voting for women for the sake of having women on the panel is silly, just as it would be to vote for the dudes for the simple sake of making sure that "testosterone" is properly represented. Vote for individuals based on their merits, not based on what they may or may not carry between their legs....

 

[Tolen Mar]

Can I pick them or what?

My five choices seem at the moment to be the ones that are winning.