24 Finale SPOILERS! Nina's Back!

[jaldaen]

I'm still wondering why they didn't just stick Chase's arm in the fish tank. Seems like an easy way to stop an airborne virus.

I asked myself the same thing and my roomate said that depending on how the dispersal device worked it might have caused bubbles to erupt to the surface thus contaminating at least the room they were in... still not a bad option if nothing else presents itself, but I think the concept was for no one to be contaminated especially when its you involved ;-)

 

[NeoSamurai]

Sticking it in the fishtank would've still contaminated Chase and possibly Jack then everyone else in the school.

As to thed crying, I'd have to say the drugs were part of it. Jack did or witnessed a lot of things during this last day, some of which were very deplorable.

*Spoilers*

He freed the man he imprisoned and earned an addiction from.
He played Russian Roulette during a prison break.
He betrayed CTU.
He betrayed Chase.
He killed Nina.
He killed Chapelle.
He cut Chase's hand off.
He was willing to put Saunder's daughter in a contaminated area.
His daughter went field agent.
Gael died.
Tony was shot.
Tony betrayed Jack and CTU.
He found out about Chase and Kim.
He played Nina.
He was beaten up by the guy he broke out of prison.

And I'm sure there were some other things that happened that I missed. No one could go through a day like that and come out unscathed.

 

[Tom Cashel]

I thought it was terrible.

First they say the station is "locked down," and then we find out that despite the lockable gates in all subway stations..."locked down" means two cops standing in front of an open, functioning escalator. Stoopid.

The previous episode, where CTU's computers were hooked into every imaginable agency and system ("We need to shut down the train!" "No problem, I'll access the system.") was completely unbelievable...but this was worse.

Not to mention the whole show is a commercial for Ford trucks and the Patriot Act.

I'll not tune in next season. What a turd.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

First they say the station is "locked down," and then we find out that despite the lockable gates in all subway stations..."locked down" means two cops standing in front of an open, functioning escalator. Stoopid.

Not to mention that, between the two, they couldn't take down one man with a knife. Instead of always hiring new cops here in L.A. county, we should invest in some combat training. Sheesh.

The previous episode, where CTU's computers were hooked into every imaginable agency and system ("We need to shut down the train!" "No problem, I'll access the system.") was completely unbelievable...but this was worse.

And what exactly did Tony do that was so valuable they had to release him because no one else in CTU could do it? Was he a traffic cop before joining CTU or something?

And what about the axe in the school? It's been a while since I was in middle school, sure, but I don't remember ever seering an axe around. And (someone else mentioned this at Television Without Pity) why exactly were there children at school? Didn't Palmer tell everyone to stay home when the virus threat manifested itself?

I'll not tune in next season. What a turd.

Sadly, I think I'm in agreement. I loved Season 1, and mostly Season 2 (not sure which I prefer, they both had their ups and downs). This season, honestly, the only reason I finished it out was because I felt I owed it to myself after enjoying the first two seasons. I'm not even picking this up on dvd.

It just got so... soapy. I mean, at its core, it was always kind of a soap opera, but it was pretty well disgused- by the writing and the performances. This season, IMO, both were pretty bad.

(On the other hand, though- I did like the ending. I thought Jack's breakdown was great, and believable, and just worked on so many levels- all the crap he went through, his heroin addiction, him not being able to trust/show weakness even in front of his own daughter, his detachedness, his compartmentalizing and shutting down again as soon as duty calls... great. Kiefer is pretty much the only reason to continue watching the show at all- even Dennis Haysbert was pretty much a dud this season.)

 

[Sarigar]

The one complaint I had this season is that they tried to do too much with it. Too many plot points to wrap up and some left up in the air. There are always holes in the plot, they just crowded the plot trying to cover them up, but it only made them more obvious.

 

[Silver Moon]

Hey guys, chill out. The show is meant to be exciting entertainment - sure, the plot holes are so thick you could drive a tank through them (and they probably will next season), but it's still fascinating to watch.

On the other hand, one thing that I did learn from "24" though is that in L.A. you can get to anywhere in ten minutes! And there's never any traffic (except for trucks backing up when you don't want them to).

The only part of last night I didn't care for was Tony's speech to Michelle at the end, primarily the line "You're alive and nobody else got hurt". Nobody? Let's count how many people got hurt who wouldn't have if Saunders had been caught earlier. Start with the two dead cops and the dead civilian. Chase looked like he may have been a little bit hurt. And what about the whole school full of tramatized children. And let's not forget about the teachers at the school who had food in the fridge that got contaminated!

 

[Phaedrus]

Somewhat off topic... and perhaps I wasn't paying attention... but did they every explain the virus/poison thing on Palmer's hands at the end of last season? Was Saunders involved in that?

I miss Nina. She was the best evil b**** I've ever seen!

My wife's still mad at me for rooting for Jack to dump Kim & wife to go with Nina in the 1st season (before we found out she was a Sith Lord).

 

[Shadowdancer]

And what about the axe in the school? It's been a while since I was in middle school, sure, but I don't remember ever seering an axe around. And (someone else mentioned this at Television Without Pity) why exactly were there children at school? Didn't Palmer tell everyone to stay home when the virus threat manifested itself?

It was in a middle school lab, where experiments with chemicals are done. More chance for a fire there, so if a fire axe was going to be anywhere in that school, it would be there. Not saying one would be there, but not that big a stretch considering the payoff, i.e., its use in the show.

And if the children were already at school when the announcement was made, they would have kept them there rather than send them home, until an all-clear was announced. In general, that would be safer than trying to send them all home, meaning they would have to send all of the children home from all of the schools in L.A. -- that's a lot of unneccessary traffic during a crisis situation.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

And if the children were already at school when the announcement was made, they would have kept them there rather than send them home, until an all-clear was announced. In general, that would be safer than trying to send them all home, meaning they would have to send all of the children home from all of the schools in L.A. -- that's a lot of unneccessary traffic during a crisis situation.

C'mon, we don't have traffic in L.A.

Seriously, though- you're probably right on that last point. I remember driving up to Beverly Hills on 9/11 (I didn't know about the World Trade Center until I got to work that day) and being amazed at how empty the freeway was of traffic. If they'd sent everyone home, it would have been even more congested than usual, rather than being void. At the very least, I would have probably seen some school buses if they let school out.