D&D 3E/3.5 [3.5] draw a weapon

Rel

Liquid Awesome
AuraSeer said:
[Dang, that's twice in a row I was too slow on the draw. Need more caffeine...]

You'll be hard pressed to catch up with me there, AuraSeer. I've just had my second cup of coffee and a Diet Coke with lunch.

My response time is fast but my typing is getting worse by the second.
 

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Darklone

Registered User
Rel said:
You'll be hard pressed to catch up with me there, AuraSeer. I've just had my second cup of coffee and a Diet Coke with lunch.

My response time is fast but my typing is getting worse by the second.

Where would you guys put me with 4 mugs of coffee before coffee break?
 

AuraSeer

Prismatic Programmer
Rel said:
You'll be hard pressed to catch up with me there, AuraSeer. I've just had my second cup of coffee and a Diet Coke with lunch.
Heh. When I wrote that post, my drinks consumption so far included two coffees, a Coke, and three cans of Mountain Dew. Plus I was munching the chocolate-covered espresso beans, though I don't know how many I'd eaten at that point.

Your caffeine-fu is weak! ;)
 

Destil

Explorer
Darklone said:


Right. And this 5ft movement will provoke AoOs. :D
A 5ft step never provokes an AoO. If you're doing this then really what happens is:
5' Step [No AoO]
Move to Draw [No AoO]
Standard to Attack [No AoO unless with a ranged weapon]

Unless the defination of a 5ft step has changed in the revision? (Aside from the full round action to move five feet when you couldn't normaly move)
 



Angcuru

First Post
Zad said:
But only if you move. If you moved, you can't take a full attack. So Quickdraw is useful if you a) want to draw a weapon and make a full attack b) want to draw multiple weapons in a round (thrown knives).
Isn't quick draw required for the better archery-related feats?
 

Caliban

Rules Monkey
Wolffenjugend said:
IIRC, you cannot make a 5-ft step along with a ME-action in the same round.

Yes, you can. It's explicitly allowed in the section on MEA's on page 131 of the PHB, as long as you have not otherwised moved.
 


sidonunspa

First Post
The Advantage of Quick Draw

Hi there


There is one advantage to quick draw..

lets say I have 4 attacks a round.. I have my Longsword out, after the 2nd attack I drop my oppoent.. damn the nearest bad guy is 20 feet away and casting a full round spell!

1) drop longsword and shield (free action)
2) Quickdraw Duel Flintlocks (free action)
3) Fire away at oppoent.

Or Draw bow and fire away at a target..

the ability to swap weapons mid combat is a HUGE advantage.. every PC I have has Quickdraw, yes even the mage
 
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DragonStryk72

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And then attack??? If so, what is the advantage of quickdraw? Quickdraw makes drawing a weapon a free action, but isn't already a free action for a 1st level fighter for example?

Well let's do a scenario: A pair of Rogues sneak up on your fighter in town, and flank for sneak attack on the surprise round. Since it's town, you have no weapon drawn. In order to draw a weapon without Quick Draw, you have to provoke Attack of Opportunity from BOTH Rogues, even if you take the 5 ft. out of flank. If you pull out entirely, you exit two threatened squares, so guess what happens?

With Quick Draw, you whip out both short swords, and immediately make two attacks, overpowering one quickly to remove flank and sneak attack damage from the field.

Remember that drawing on the move only works without taking an AoO if you're not in melee, are on the move (Point A to Point B, not standing up, not anything else), and have BAB of at least +1. Sure, your basic fighters get that advantages straight, but Wizards and the like get boned.

If you get jumped, or someone disarms you, you're up a creek without Quick Draw. Even if you 5 ft out of the damage pad, that isn't a normal move action, so you can't use it to draw. You would have to sacrifice your attack for the turn, during which time they can close and go for disarm again.
 

frankthedm

First Post
Amusing since if one just reads the OP without checking the date, it looks like the first post is addressing the new re-issue of the 3.5 PHB.

Still, "What's the point of quickdraw?" comes up fairly often in my experience. Also at the very core of this topic is the issue of do RPGs worry too much about what is in your hands? To say nothing of players who seem to forget they only have two arms...

 
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DragonStryk72

First Post
Does drawing a weapon provoke?

If you're in melee without Quick Draw, then yes it does. It's like if I have a sword to your throat, and you're just starting to go for your weapon. I'm getting my attack off in that time. Now, Billy the Kid on the other hand, could stand a solid chance, since he was a quick draw master
 

frankthedm

First Post
If you're in melee without Quick Draw, then yes it does. It's like if I have a sword to your throat, and you're just starting to go for your weapon. I'm getting my attack off in that time. Now, Billy the Kid on the other hand, could stand a solid chance, since he was a quick draw master
I'm sorry, the practicalities of Real Life are not rules for 3E / 3.5E / d20 in this situation. Drawing a weapon does not provoke AoOs

aook.png


Sheathing a weapon however WOULD provoke an AoO.

Thankfully accurate rules are freely available at a mouse click for 3.5 D&D.

WotC said:
Revised (v.3.5)System Reference Document

The System Reference Document is a comprehensive toolbox consisting of rules, races, classes, feats, skills, various systems, spells, magic items, and monsters compatible with the d20 System version of Dungeons & Dragons and various other roleplaying games from Wizards of the Coast. You may consider this material Open Game Content under the Open Game License, and may use, modify, and distribute it.

And other web pages offer more user friendly versions of the SRD. A popularly used one is The Hypertext d20 SRD .

Actions In Combat :: d20srd.org

[MENTION=6700939]DragonStryk72[/MENTION], what RPG systems have it where drawing a weapon provokes a free attack? I've seen system a where you are penalized for not having a weapon out in melee, but I've never noticed a system that gives a foe a free strike on you for drawing a weapon.
 
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DragonStryk72

First Post
I'm sorry, the practicalities of Real Life are not rules for 3E / 3.5E / d20 in this situation. Drawing a weapon does not provoke AoOs

aook.png


Sheathing a weapon however WOULD provoke an AoO.

Thankfully accurate rules are freely available at a mouse click for 3.5 D&D.



And other web pages offer more user friendly versions of the SRD. A popularly used one is The Hypertext d20 SRD .

Actions In Combat :: d20srd.org

Yeah... okay. Clearly this isn't a community I want a part in. Second time today, my first day, I've been treated like I'm being a huge dick when I wasn't being insulting to anyone in any form.

Being incorrect? Fine. AoOs are one of the more complicated areas of 3.5 combat. I'll take it on the chin. but being talked down to like that for one error? I'm sorry, but no. Games are fun for me, so I won't be coming back to this forum for that precise reason.
 

Dandu

First Post
I respectfully suggest that you avoid throwing a tantrum. You will not win any points, and your departure will not be viewed as a loss.
 

green slime

First Post
Yeah... okay. Clearly this isn't a community I want a part in. Second time today, my first day, I've been treated like I'm being a huge dick when I wasn't being insulting to anyone in any form.

Being incorrect? Fine. AoOs are one of the more complicated areas of 3.5 combat. I'll take it on the chin. but being talked down to like that for one error? I'm sorry, but no. Games are fun for me, so I won't be coming back to this forum for that precise reason.

What? I didn't see FranktheDM talking down to you? Your reaction seems a little thin-skinned, to be honest. But hey, your loss!
 

Dozen

First Post
I don't think he's around anymore, but if he is... I have to say, I agree with Green Slime and Dandu on this. Can you explain how Frankthedm was mean to you? I'm not seeing it. He seems more than adequately polite to me. Come on, how many times you've read the words 'I'm sorry' on the internet? This guy should be given a praise, not a finger.

And even if he was, then what? You really leave because you dislike 2-5 people on a website with thousands of users? That's the equalient of moving away because a guy from the other side of town looked at you in a funny way. You, DragonStryk72, sir, are being a giant wuss.
 
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