3.5 Facings

[Zaruthustran]

I don't know about Reach, but I'm pretty sure that monster bases will be X by X.

Small: smaller than a 5' square, but large enough that you can't fit more than one into a single square.
Medium: a single 5' square
Large: a box of four 5' squares.

I don't know how they'll handle the other sizes, or how they'll handle explicitly long creatures (like worms). Or how they'll handle a team of horses pulling side-by-side.

But Large creatures are suddenly plenty scary. If an ogre takes up a 2x2 space and has 10' of reach, it controls an area 60 feet in diameter. Which seems more than a little extreme to me.

I hope they redo Reach.

-z

 

[CRGreathouse]

But Large creatures are suddenly plenty scary. If an ogre takes up a 2x2 space and has 10' of reach, it controls an area 60 feet in diameter. Which seems more than a little extreme to me.

Wouldn't that be 30 foot diameter (15 foot radius)?

 

[frankthedm]

a 10 x 10 facing for a horse? that one FAT horse

 

[takyris]

It's not the total area occupied by the horse -- it's the area in which the horse could possibly be during a six second period that involves the horse wheeling around, bucking, turning to kick people, and so forth.

Similarly, I am about 5'10". My shoulders, barring some really wonderful herbal exercise supplements, are in no danger of being large enough for me to be five feet wide. A five-foot square is the space I could take up just with minor repositioning, shuffles and turns, during a six-second period.

-Tacky

 

[Wormwood]

Anyone whose been near an uncooperative horse would probably agree that a 10' berth is the *minimum* safe distance

 

[Technik4]

Facing for centaurs and wemics in RoF seem to indicate that they only have 5ft reach though they are 10ft long (or occupy a space 10 ft long which they may move around in 6 seconds)

"Centaur Face is 10 feet, with a reach of 5 feet." RoF pg 133

"Wemic Facing is 10 feet, with a reach of 5 feet." RoF pg 150

Technik

 

[Renaissance Man]

That's consistent with the face/reach for a Large (long) creature as described in the Fiend Folio. Whereas a Large (tall) creature - an orge, frex - would have a face of 10 and a reach of 10.

 

[Droogie]

Hmmm. I do like he new facing rules- its simpler, which I'm always up for. However, like everything, it has its cons.

Say you have two half-ogres in the party (size: large). They are both standing in a 10' corridor, side by side. Realistically they could stand next to each other, no problem. What happens when a fight breaks out? What if a group of gnolls suddenly charges down the corridor towards them? Would they have room to fight? Would you allow them to fight next to each other, at least for the first round, maybe at a penalty?

 

[CRGreathouse]

Hmmm. I do like he new facing rules- its simpler, which I'm always up for. However, like everything, it has its cons.

Say you have two half-ogres in the party (size: large). They are both standing in a 10' corridor, side by side. Realistically they could stand next to each other, no problem. What happens when a fight breaks out? What if a group of gnolls suddenly charges down the corridor towards them? Would they have room to fight? Would you allow them to fight next to each other, at least for the first round, maybe at a penalty?

What if two halflings are in a 5-foot wide corridor?

 

[EarthsShadow]

I was walking down a sidewalk recently and it dawned on me that most typical sidewalks are about 4'x4' to 5'x5', depending on where they are, and if two people are standing in sidewalks squares next to each other, there is a great distance between the two people. Go stand in a sidewalk square sometime and you get a idea of just how large a area we are really talking about.