3.5 or what?

[Scurvy_Platypus]

Ever since the 4e kneepads have come out, I find myself coming to enworld less and less. Why are there so many 4e threads in the 3.5 forum? Does enworld still cater or am i in the wrong session?

I think you're operating under the assumption that this is a "3.5" or "3.0" forum. It's a forum that is strongly focused on the current edition of D&D, and also has support (or whatever you want to call it) for other games as well.

The current edition of D&D is 4E, so now it's a forum with a strong focus on 4E.

A while back people voiced concern that ENWorld would no longer be "a place for them" if they didn't "upgrade" to 4E. It was stated then that folks that wanted to stay with the older edition would still be equally welcome. As would Pathfinder folks and even those freaks (such as myself) that play other games besides d20.

*shrug*

If you're sticking with 3.x, about all I can say is, "Welcome to the wonderful world of playing a "dead game". Because that's basically the group you've joined. At least until Pathfinder comes out. Then maybe you'll be able to join the "nostalgia" gamer group.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. Right now the net is aflame with people that want to preach about how great/lousy 4E is. Eventually it'll settle down. Although you'll probably be subjected to the usual, "You should quit playing that old game lol, and start playing the game everyone else is." and other than that, you'll be able to get on with conversations about your favorite game.

To be honest, ENWorld seems like a decent enough place most of the time. Then again, I'm pretty selective about the forums I visit, and threads I poke into. It could be a wretched hive of villainy and scum, and I'm just a chump waiting to take a blaster bolt to the gut.

I'm enjoying it a lot more than other forums, that's for certain.

Give it a couple of months and it'll have probably settled down.

 

[blargney the second]

I think there should be a 4E general discussion and 3.X general discussion, since the community is so cleanly split.

Speak for yourself! I'm dirty as all get out.
-blarg

 

[Scurvy_Platypus]

Edit: For what it's worth, I agree. I think there should be a 4E general discussion and 3.X general discussion, since the community is so cleanly split.

Would make it easier for each group to find a place to belong without having to listen to the preaching of the other side.

There already kinda is. It's the General RPG Rules Discussion.

WAS CALLED "Pathfinder/OGL/D20 GAMES"] Discuss the rules of Pathfinder, d20 Modern and any other game except D&D, such as Arcana Evolved, Mutants & Masterminds, Star Wars Saga, and the like.

Then there's the 3E section for houserules and 3E rule questions.

I think any further forum splitting stuff simply leads to a more fractured "community". If folks can't be civil and not threadcrap, simply making another sub-forum or whatever isn't going to stop it.

Once the tag thing gets resolved, it'll be easy enough to avoid popping into those threads that aren't of interest to someone.

And to be honest? This particular forum description reads:

Discussion of all RPGs and non-system-specific topics. DM/GM/player issues, settings, etc. Rules discussion belongs in one the forums below.

In theory, _any_ rpg discussion belongs here. Yeah, D&D is the dominant topic of these forums, but folks do play other non-d20 games in addition to all the other flavors of d20 that don't neatly sort themselves into "3.x" or "4e".

 

[Jaeger]

If you're sticking with 3.x, about all I can say is, "Welcome to the wonderful world of playing a "dead game". Because that's basically the group you've joined. At least until Pathfinder comes out. Then maybe you'll be able to join the "nostalgia" gamer group.

I approve of this message.

3.x = Old and Busted!

4e = New Hotness!

4e is D&D. You'll just have to face reality and get used to it.

In a few years 3.x players will be just like the rest of us who play games like Reign, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Burning Wheel, Runequest,and other fantasy games not called D&D. Now your game may say D&D or AD&D on the cover - but if it is'nt the latest edition, you'll soon be in the same boat as the rest of us.

You'll just have to accept the fact that you enjoy playing an RPG that doesn't give you access to the largest player base in the world.

Because there is the current edition of D&D, and then there is everybody else.

Welcome to the Club!

Of course if you don't like that idea you can always switch to 4e...

 

[CleverNickName]

I approve of this message.

3.x = Old and Busted!

4e = New Hotness!

4e is D&D. You'll just have to face reality and get used to it.

...

Because there is the current edition of D&D, and then there is everybody else.

Welcome to the Club!

Of course if you don't like that idea you can always switch to 4e...

See? This isn't helping. When people in the 3rd Edition forums express their annoyance at the "get it or get out" attitude of 4th Edition fans, they refer back to posts like this to prove their point.

So please...stop the biting sarcasm and overgeneralizations. If nothing else, you are making 4th Edition sound less appealing to people who mnight still be on the fence about it.

 

[jdrakeh]

Look, ENWorld is a D&D site and the current edition of D&D is 4e. Unsurprisingly, as a D&D site, there will be a lot of 4e discussion. If you don't like this, can't stand it, and refuse to abide it, the reality is that you would probably be better of finding a 3x-only discussion site. This isn't that site.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Actually, ENWorld is not a message board forum on the current edition of D&D. It is a a message board forum about D&D in general, and other role-playing games and even role-playing related stuff.

But since 4E is the newest product in the world of D&D, it is the most discussed topic.
If it wasn't 4E, but "Complete Fighter II", "Class Compendium" and "Book of 6 Gnomish Hook Hammers" , these would be what we are discussing.

The biggest difference is that 4E means new core rules, which means the groundwork, the fundamentals need to be discussed. And they will replace lot of the recurring fundamental discussions on 3E. (Remember the old Alignment Threads? The Grapple Questions?)

 

[Relique du Madde]

THERE IS NO TRUE EDITION OF DND AND EVERY EDITION OF DND WILL BE FLAWED.

With that said, and emphasized, I'll just like to add that in the long run it does not matter which edition of DnD you play, nor does it matter what role playing game you play, or how you play it. The only thing that matters is if you enjoy playing it, so please stop ruining another person's enjoyment of their chosen edition of DnD and realize that every edition of DND is still DND even if the current publisher's of the game do not support it..

 

[Psion]

If you're sticking with 3.x, about all I can say is, "Welcome to the wonderful world of playing a "dead game". Because that's basically the group you've joined. At least until Pathfinder comes out. Then maybe you'll be able to join the "nostalgia" gamer group.

Oh noes! I'm having wrongfun.

But damn, it's some good wrongfun.

 

[Vascant]

If you're sticking with 3.x, about all I can say is, "Welcome to the wonderful world of playing a "dead game". Because that's basically the group you've joined.

Dead? Heck my group has started to print player handbooks for new players. In all seriousness not much has changed for me with the release of 4e.

1. Most material I use is either created by me, one of my players or 3rd party publishers.
2. Any adventure used by a publisher requires changes. (The new 4e edition adventure from Dungeon Mag needed 2 conversions, from 4e to 3.5 and from boring to fun)
3. Just played a 3.5 game yesterday and not a single player asked about 4e

All I can say Don is wait a bit, EN World will return to normal where a majority of people will be complaining about WotC just like old times. The new smell of the books needs to wear off first.