Wolfspider
Explorer
Vigilance said:
Eh. I don't know. Even if something is free, it can still be criticized.
D&D 3.x 3.5: Out With A Whimper
- Thread starter Reynard
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Eh. I don't know. Even if something is free, it can still be criticized.
ShinHakkaider
Hero
Wolfspider said:
Exactly, I used to go to plenty of free movie screenings. If a free movie is crap I'm not supposed to say so because it was FREE?
Good question, but I have never bought any of Wizards' core D&D modules for 3.0/3.5. (Although I've played in 'em, and enjoyed them.)
Basically, for me, 3.0/3.5 is not over 'till I find some people to play a few games of "Testament" and "African Adventures" with. Oh, and maybe "Midnight." I've grown to enjoy the diversity of third-party D&D settings which were produced for 3.0/3.5 and this is the main thing that bothers me as Wizards "herds the horses back into the corral" for the production of 4.0... although I realize they have to do this, of course, third-party settings are just the icing on the D&D cake rather than the main course.
Also, some of the very things that make D&D4.0 more streamlined and accessible to new players (reduced number of skills, elimination of prestige classes, etc.) may make 4.0 less "customizable" for different settings in the way that 3.0 was. Again, it's not D&D's problem; it's not Wizards' problem; it's just my problem (and third-party publishers' problem) speaking as someone who has enjoyed all the weird and fun stuff produced in the 3.0/3.5 years when D&D turned into a sort of "pseudo-GURPS" universal setting.
Basically, for me, 3.0/3.5 is not over 'till I find some people to play a few games of "Testament" and "African Adventures" with. Oh, and maybe "Midnight." I've grown to enjoy the diversity of third-party D&D settings which were produced for 3.0/3.5 and this is the main thing that bothers me as Wizards "herds the horses back into the corral" for the production of 4.0... although I realize they have to do this, of course, third-party settings are just the icing on the D&D cake rather than the main course.
Also, some of the very things that make D&D4.0 more streamlined and accessible to new players (reduced number of skills, elimination of prestige classes, etc.) may make 4.0 less "customizable" for different settings in the way that 3.0 was. Again, it's not D&D's problem; it's not Wizards' problem; it's just my problem (and third-party publishers' problem) speaking as someone who has enjoyed all the weird and fun stuff produced in the 3.0/3.5 years when D&D turned into a sort of "pseudo-GURPS" universal setting.
Angel Tarragon
Dawn Dragon
Reynard, I believe you've hit the nail smack center of its proverbial head. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Klaus
First Post
"Hey, Bob, your ranger is an elf, right?"Dausuul said:
"Right."
"Here, increase his Con by 2 and increase his Wis by 2."
"Sweet!"
"Hey, Jeb, your wizard is an elf, right?"
"Right."
"Well, erase 'elf' and write 'eladrin' in there."
"Okay."
Mind you, these are flimsy examples based on what *we* know. WotC, having all the cards, could come up with a skill list and say "merge Hide/Move Silently, Spot/Search/Listen, Knowledge (nature)/Survival", or "add 2x your first HD in hp, to account for triple HD at 1st level", etc.
Carnivorous_Bean
First Post
Why is everyone saying that the OP is saying that 4E is crap? 
I don't get it.
What the OP said is:
"WotC dumped 3.5 6 or 9 months before they had 4E ready. How are they going to keep going in between? Why didn't they produce something to sell in between? Why the suddenness of it all, and the gap in new product (and thus, revenue for WotC) that it's producing? Was it a good idea for them to handle the matter this way? Or was it some kind of knee-jerk decision that's going to cause them problems from a dead period of sales?"
Which, IMO, are very good questions.
I don't get it.What the OP said is:
"WotC dumped 3.5 6 or 9 months before they had 4E ready. How are they going to keep going in between? Why didn't they produce something to sell in between? Why the suddenness of it all, and the gap in new product (and thus, revenue for WotC) that it's producing? Was it a good idea for them to handle the matter this way? Or was it some kind of knee-jerk decision that's going to cause them problems from a dead period of sales?"
Which, IMO, are very good questions.
ShinHakkaider
Hero
Rechan said:
I'm sorry could you point to where EXACTLY I said that Nick Louge and Ari were putting out crap.
POINT TO IT. QUOTE ME.
No inferences, show me when I said that.
If it's not clear that I was addressing in the point that even though something was free it's not immune to critique then you need to RE-READ what I wrote.
Dont be a jerk
