D&D 4E 4E Devils vs. Demons article

[Glyfair]

Perhaps demon lords, if any are missing, will be a bit tricky, but I think Necromancer will probably jump all over that if there is a need for it.

Clark has promised a 4E Tome of Horrors for as close to the launch of 4E as possible. As he already promised more classic erinyes and/or succubus, I'm pretty sure there will be more in this area addressed.

GVDammerung, really not good.

 

[Tinker Gnome]

I am entirely neutral towards this change. I was never much into Demons and Devils, and all my players care about is killing them when they do pop up. So, meh.

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

People think the outer planes are set, clearly-defined things set out on a big wheel, but really they're just a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, planey-waney ... stuff.

Sorry, that one got away from me.

-The Gneech

Blink?

 

[Lackhand]

Don't Even.

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

Don't Even.

tee hee!

 

[helium3]

that was such an awesome episode.

 

[FreeXenon]

Roxors?

Listen to the "amen chorus!" If Wotc told you that they were going to perform unnatural acts on your pet (I'm cleaning that up for you cause I'm a nice guy but you can use your imagination), you "amen" comrades and "this rocks" fellow travellers would be giggling and squirming in anticipation.

...

This is stupid, dangerous stuff.

*blink* *blink* After reading this post all I could do is stare at it incredulously.
I am not sure if I should report it or cry. :\

GVDammerung, I am curious as to why you think that the D&D is over because they are changing the way that the planes are working? I am not sure how changing the flavor of demons and devils and D&D's base cosmology could result in the 'abandonment of what has made D&D "the world's most popular roleplaying game".'

Did you have the same complaints with the advent of Planescape and Tanaari? How important is D&D's cosmology to the running of 'your' games? Does the very fabric and feel of the D&D rules depend on how the demons, devils, and its accompanying cosmology interact?

I am really curious as to how this little bit ruins D&D as we know it? Please explain this some more? You are predicting doom and I want to understand why?


Yes, I am 'The Edition Fan boy' and this change does 'Roxors my my boxors!'.

 

[Aloïsius]

This is the abandonment of much of what has made D&D "the world's most popular roleplaying game" just that,

riiiight. D&D is the "world's mot popular RPG" because someone created the great wheel... It's popularity has nothing to do with D&D beeing the first RPG of history. No : this game is all about demon and devil fighting the blood war !

Huh. I though d&D was about dungeon and dragons. You explore the first with a team of character defined by race, class and level, and you kill the second by using sword and magic.... :\

 

[Ahrimon]

I'm really digging this new game that WotC is working on. Looks really creative with lots of cool ideas to explore and such.

Since they announced it, though, I really wish they'd start working on the new edition of Dungeons and Dragons instead of this new game....

Right, because there were no changes between 1E and 2E or 2E and 3E or 3E and 3.5E....Oh wait.

 

[Branduil]

But what is D&D? D&D is it's history. The rule editions come and go, but the lore remains. If the new D&D is merely a couple of books who serendipitously have the trademark rights to put the letters D&D on them, but have nothing to do with 30 years of D&D lore, that's no longer D&D. Three letters do not make D&D.

I guess I never run D&D then, since I never use the Great Wheel.