D&D 4E 4e house rules based on the rogue preview

[Crashy75]

While I liked a lot of what I've seen in the rogue preview, there are a few changes that I will probably make (though I realize context is important so we’ll see).

#1: Trained skills- I'm inclined to allow rogue pc's to just select 6.

#2: Replace any "light blade" requirement to "light melee weapon". I assume larger weapons (such as the axe) will be too over-the-top, but a little more diversity here would be nice.

Any other suggestions or do you think I'm totally off base?

 

[jtrowell]

Those seems like reasonable house rules, but I think it will probably be better to first wait for the game to be released and try it RAW first, before making houserules.

 

[Crashy75]

Those seems like reasonable house rules, but I think it will probably be better to first wait for the game to be released and try it RAW first, before making houserules.

Yeah, I agree. I plan on playing at least a few sessions before I change anything. These are the things that just stuck out for me.

 

[The Little Raven]

I agree with your changes, but I also agree with playing the RAW before making it. Personally, I don't see why any one-handed light weapon can't be used to sneak attack somebody, but Wizards might have a very good game design resign for why that's the case (similar to how Blizzard designed certain rogue abilities to only work with daggers).

 

[Alisair Longreach]

I will certainly make knowledge skills like Dungeoneering Int-based instead of Wis-based.

 

[Belphanior]

I will certainly make knowledge skills like Dungeoneering Int-based instead of Wis-based.

Who said Dungeoneering is a knowledge? In fact, with the playtest report that told us that two characters used Dungeoneering checks to make a runaway minecart jump over a chasm, it seems quite clear that it's not a knowledge at all.

But I suppose it's unreasonable to expect that people will refrain from jumping to (obviously erroneous) conclusions about a game that isn't due for another four months - especially in a thead about houserules.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

i suppose int will play a certain role on skills... i have no clue how, but it will not be worthless (as constitution for hp)

 

[Kirnon_Bhale]

I have been thinking about this.

1. I don't really have any issue with two preselected skills so house rule or not and its all good.

2. I think could do with a change to help differentiate rogues from each other. I would say that any melee weapon is going too far for the sneak att. etc. My house rule in this would be to change their weapon selection. I would not assign specific weapons but state at creation that the rogue can choose one weapon from each category. I think that the categories fall into Crossbows, Slings and Light bladed weapons - So they can select any 3 bladed weapons any 1 sling and any 1 crossbow. This then takes into account futureproofing when they bring out new weapons etc. No specifically named weapons even if currently there is only one weapon in the category.

 

[Fallen Seraph]

Well the only house-rule so far I am doing is taking rid of most of the restricted weapon proficiencies, but I was planning on doing this even before the Rogue article.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Those seems like reasonable house rules, but I think it will probably be better to first wait for the game to be released and try it RAW first, before making houserules.

I fought the RAW, and the RAW won.