D&D 5E 5E Survivor - 5th Edition Survives! [+]

[delericho]

For my "nice thing about 4e", I'll submit a really old thread I started back when it was the current edition: D&D 4E - Things I really like about 4e (and how they could be better)

 

[Jacob Lewis]

Well, the "positive only" statement was in the original post, but lots of folks might skip over that stuff.

Let's not sell this idea short. It takes very little effort to say nothing, which most of us chose to do. Being proactive requires an effort. Not saying anything negative may be the mathematical equivalent of saying something positive, but a double-negative isn't always a positive.

 

[Scribe]

4H Positivity: Following it seems PHB 3, they defined racial attribute restrictions.

 

[Omand]

Correction Time - Post #638 upvoted 5th Edition, but this was not reflected in Post #639 or subsequent posts. But it is just 5E that was missed, all of the other updates from #638 made it into #639.

Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 1st Edition 45
B/X Dungeons and Dragons 27
BECMI Dungeons and Dragons 49
Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 2nd Edition 47
Dungeons & Dragons, Rules Cyclopedia Edition 48
Dungeons & Dragons, 4th Edition 11
Dungeons & Dragons, 5th Edition 39

Cheers

 

[Argyle King]

Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 1st Edition 50-2 = 48
Basic Dungeons and Dragons 6
B/X Dungeons and Dragons 25
BECMI Dungeons and Dragons 48
Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 2nd Edition 47
Dungeons & Dragons, Rules Cyclopedia Edition 49
Dungeons & Dragons, 4th Edition 19
Dungeons & Dragons, 5th Edition 36+1 = 37

There. Now everyone is lower than the starting value.

I don't see where anything was missed on #638

 

[Musing Mage]

I don't see where anything was missed on #638

BECMI should have been at 49, not 48.

 

[Argyle King]

BECMI should have been at 49, not 48.

Ok. I see that now.

I was confused because the most recent correction appears to add +1 to 5E.

 

[ccooke]

Ok. I see that now.

I was confused because the most recent correction appears to add +1 to 5E.

There was a missing +1 to 5e, yes (Check the post after mine). It's easily done (especially since the posts were only a few minutes apart).

Anyway, more important things:

4e stands out for the bravery of its design, the soundness of its mechanics and for really innovating on the game. I will always love it for that, and for being the first D&D that really was designed to be easy to run.

 

[Omand]

@Esbee and @Argyle King , you are both correct, BECMI should also be +1 as it was missed between Post #637 & #638.

Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 1st Edition 45
B/X Dungeons and Dragons 27
BECMI Dungeons and Dragons 50
Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 2nd Edition 47
Dungeons & Dragons, Rules Cyclopedia Edition 48
Dungeons & Dragons, 4th Edition 11
Dungeons & Dragons, 5th Edition 39

I think everything should be correct now.

Cheers

 

[Bolares]

I've been upvoting 4e all thread, but IF YOU HATERS (jk) can say good things about it so can I. I reeeeeally love skill challenges. I've stollen them for almost any game for skill based encounters

 

[CleverNickName]

Just to clarify, it is a "say something nice about your downvote" thing, not "something nice about 4E" thing. If you're downvoting, say, AD&D or BECMI, I'd like to invite you to say something nice about those editions also. The point I'm trying to make is that there are plenty of things to like about each option, even the option you like the least. You can eat your bitter herbs with a little honey too.

 

[pumasleeve]

Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 1st Edition 46
B/X Dungeons and Dragons 27
BECMI Dungeons and Dragons 50
Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 2nd Edition 47
Dungeons & Dragons, Rules Cyclopedia Edition 48
Dungeons & Dragons, 4th Edition 11
Dungeons & Dragons, 5th Edition 37

 

[Bolares]

Just to clarify, it is a "say something nice about your downvote" thing, not "something nice about 4E" thing. If you're downvoting, say, AD&D or BECMI, I'd like to invite you to say something nice about those editions also. The point I'm trying to make is that there are plenty of things to like about each option, even the option you like the least. You can eat your bitter herbs with a little honey too.

I know I know, was just trying to make a joke

 

[Ath-kethin]

Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 1st Edition 46
B/X Dungeons and Dragons 27
BECMI Dungeons and Dragons 50
Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 2nd Edition 47
Dungeons & Dragons, Rules Cyclopedia Edition 48 + 1 = 49
Dungeons & Dragons, 4th Edition 11 - 2 = 9 4e had major innovations, and I'm glad that rituals (at least) made it into 5e
Dungeons & Dragons, 5th Edition 37

 

[EzekielRaiden]

Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 1st Edition 46
B/X Dungeons and Dragons 27
BECMI Dungeons and Dragons 50
Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 2nd Edition 47
Dungeons & Dragons, Rules Cyclopedia Edition 49
Dungeons & Dragons, 4th Edition 9 + 1 = 10
Dungeons & Dragons, 5th Edition 37 - 2 = 35

5e put Dragonborn into the OGL. That's absolutely enormous, as far as I'm concerned. 4e made them a baseline race, but they were stuck behind the GSL, which is awful (and I absolutely grant that the GSL was one of the worst parts of 4e's existence). 5e means we can now, officially, include them in 3rd-party materials without resorting to silly loopholes.

 

[Tallifer]

Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 1st Edition 46
B/X Dungeons and Dragons 27 -2 =25
BECMI Dungeons and Dragons 50
Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 2nd Edition 47
Dungeons & Dragons, Rules Cyclopedia Edition 49
Dungeons & Dragons, 4th Edition 10 + 1 = 11
Dungeons & Dragons, 5th Edition 35

 

[DataDwarf]

It honestly is the best complete-in-one-book version of D&D. Come to think of it, it's the only complete-in-one-book version of D&D. Excepting the various intro sets.

I have both the BECMI and the Rules Cyclopedia sitting on my shelf. The only reason I would choose BECMI over the Rules Cyclopedia, is that I started my journey into TTRPGs with it.

 

[FireLance]

Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 1st Edition 46
B/X Dungeons and Dragons 25 -2 =23
BECMI Dungeons and Dragons 50
Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 2nd Edition 47
Dungeons & Dragons, Rules Cyclopedia Edition 49
Dungeons & Dragons, 4th Edition 11 + 1 = 12
Dungeons & Dragons, 5th Edition 35

I'm downvoting B/X because I've never played it, so I'll say something nice about its very close relative, BECMI instead.

That was the edition that I first played and the thing I loved most about it was the introductory "Choose Your Own Adventure" style solo adventure featuring Aleena the Cleric and Bargle the Magic User that helped a complete beginner (such as myself) understand the concepts and rules of the game. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it in subsequent editions of the game.

 

[billd91]

Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 1st Edition 46
B/X Dungeons and Dragons 23
BECMI Dungeons and Dragons 50
Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 2nd Edition 47
Dungeons & Dragons, Rules Cyclopedia Edition 49
Dungeons & Dragons, 4th Edition 10
Dungeons & Dragons, 5th Edition 36

 

[Lanefan]

Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 1st Edition 47
B/X Dungeons and Dragons 23
BECMI Dungeons and Dragons 50
Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 2nd Edition 47
Dungeons & Dragons, Rules Cyclopedia Edition 49
Dungeons & Dragons, 4th Edition 8 - bloodied is a brilliant idea that I wish they'd a) kept and b) expanded on in 5e.
Dungeons & Dragons, 5th Edition 36