D&D 5E 5E Survivor - Subclasses (Part V: Druids)

[fluffybunbunkittens]

One Wizard at a time! We did it!

 

[DeviousQuail]

I 100% agree with you on the annoying/slowing down the game part.

however I can't believe what you are saying about ineffective. I ran a module with a PC with a Shepherd, it was very effective.

While not as powerful, the move to the summon spells instead of conjure spells alleviates the slow down problem. Much more streamlined and no DM interpretation required. Now they just need to make some summon swarm versions for those who want to have 8 wolves but don't want the slowdown of tracking 8 wolves.

 

[CleverNickName]

One Wizard at a time! We did it!

I guarantee that a wizard will make it to the final round.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Circle of Land 2-2=0
Circle of Shepherd 7+1=8

Let's end this!

Oh hey! Nice! The best subclass won for once.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

While not as powerful, the move to the summon spells instead of conjure spells alleviates the slow down problem. Much more streamlined and no DM interpretation required. Now they just need to make some summon swarm versions for those who want to have 8 wolves but don't want the slowdown of tracking 8 wolves.

Have them all resolve at once. When they “attack” it’s a save vs damage and knockdown, save for half and no knockdown.

 

[Undrave]

Oh hey! Nice! The best subclass won for once.

And a non-PHB one at that!

 

[CleverNickName]

And a non-PHB one at that!

Again! That makes two so far!

(ducks and runs before @EzekielRaiden shows up)

 

[niklinna]

Treantmonk would be so happy?

 

[DND_Reborn]

They didn't, they could have voted against the boring ones (Land and Shepherd).

Better of they (you) vote against the ones you don't like.

Shepard is alright.

After Moon and Land, it was the next best choice for me. So, once it came down to the final two, it really didn't matter much to me which won.

On to the Fighters!

 

[ezo]

Kinda bummed Land didn't win, but it didn't look likely. At least Shepherd sounds okay.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

At least Shepherd sounds okay.

No no, the name is the worst part!

 

[EzekielRaiden]

Again! That makes two so far!

(ducks and runs before @EzekielRaiden shows up)

It may be as bland as unflavored oatmeal and (as noted by others) a poor fit for 5e's combat process, but it is a non-PHB subclass of a PHB class, so I'll take it.

Still think Wildfire or Stars should have won though. Those are flavorful and creative takes on the classic concept. "I have fairy and animal friends!!" is almost painfully uncreative when it comes to Druids.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

It may be as bland as unflavored oatmeal and (as noted by others) a poor fit for 5e's combat process, but it is a non-PHB subclass of a PHB class, so I'll take it.

Still think Wildfire or Stars should have won though. Those are flavorful and creative takes on the classic concept. "I have fairy and animal friends!!" is almost painfully uncreative when it comes to Druids.

Not everything needs to be a subversion or alt take. The Shephard actually fulfills what the Druid is conceptually, IMO.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

Not everything needs to be a subversion or alt take. The Shephard actually fulfills what the Druid is conceptually, IMO.

Okay but...

We got Lore Bard, the "fulfills what the [Bard] is conceptually" subclass, and likewise with the Totem Barbarian and Tempest Cleric. You say "not everything needs to be a subversion or an alt take," but we haven't gotten a subversion or an alt take as a winner yet!

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Okay but...

We got Lore Bard, the "fulfills what the [Bard] is conceptually" subclass, and likewise with the Totem Barbarian and Tempest Cleric. You say "not everything needs to be a subversion or an alt take," but we haven't gotten a subversion or an alt take as a winner yet!

How is the tempest cleric in the same category as the lore bard?

 

[EzekielRaiden]

How is the tempest cleric in the same category as the lore bard?

....seriously? The "Thor's hammer," dropping holy fury from the skies while also mixing it up in melee Cleric? That isn't as bog-standard as you can get without being the (incredibly dull) Life Cleric?

Knowledge is an alt-take (an official one! It used to exist as the Cloistered Cleric in 3e.) Trickery is a subversion.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

....seriously? The "Thor's hammer," dropping holy fury from the skies while also mixing it up in melee Cleric? That isn't as bog-standard as you can get without being the (incredibly dull) Life Cleric?

Knowledge is an alt-take (an official one! It used to exist as the Cloistered Cleric in 3e.) Trickery is a subversion.

Yeah, Thor ain’t a cleric.

Being the storm is more a Druid thing, and the cleric in melee just starts to disappear into the Paladin.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

Yeah, Thor ain’t a cleric.

Being the storm is more a Druid thing, and the cleric in melee just starts to disappear into the Paladin.

So...

All that heavy armor and bashing weapon skill...all those spells that literally call down fury from the heavens...that's all, what, a distraction?