D&D 5E 5e tumbling through opponent squares?

[Werebat]

Any rules, or suggestions, on how to handle PCs trying to tumble away from enemies, or through their squares?

One of my players tried to tumble through the square of a small opponent the other night (his PC is a medium elf). I could not see any rules about this, but figured Acrobatics might apply.

Then I realized that opening the door to tumbling THROUGH opponent squares with an acrobatics check also opened the door to tumbling AWAY with said checks to avoid AoO, and that players would likely expect the DC for such an attempt to be lower.

I don't want to bring back the days of tumbling attempts being made every time a PC moves, because the worst thing that can happen is that it won't work.

Again, any suggestions?

 

[dropbear8mybaby]

Page 272, DMG. Tumble.

 

[Lanliss]

Dmg has a few optional rules for this.

OVERRUN
When a creature tries to move through a hostile creature's space, the mover can try to force its way through by overrunning the hostile creature.as an action or bonus action, the Mover makes a strength (athletics) check contested by the hostile creatures strength (athletics) check. The mover has advantage if it is larger than the hostile creature, or disadvantage if it is smaller. If the mover wins the contest it can move through the hostile creatures space once this turn.

SHOVE ASIDE
with this option, a creature uses the special shove attack from the PHB to force a target to the side, instead of away. The attacker has disadvantage on the strength (athletics) check when it does so. If the check succeeds, the attacker moves the target 5 feet to a different space within reach.

TUMBLE
A creature can try to tumble through a hostile creatures space, ducking and weaving past the opponent. As an action or bonus action, the tumbler makes an Acrobatics check contested by the hostile creatures acrobatics check. If the tumbler wins it can move through the hostile creatures space once this turn.

 

[Werebat]

Thanks! Didn't think it would be that easy...

 

[Saeviomagy]

Also tumbling through squares doesn't affect tumbling away at all: you provoke for moving away from a foe, not for any other reason, including running circles around him.

 

[Dausuul]

Here's an idea for evading OAs: If you move in a way that provokes OAs, you can make an Acrobatics check to evade them. If you do so, you can use the result of your Acrobatics check in place of your AC. However, if you still get hit, you fall prone and lose the rest of your movement.

 

[Nickolaidas]

A monster with blindsight is surrounded by 8 human fighters.

F=Fighter
M=Monster

FFF
FMF
FFF


The monster casts darkness, and all the fighters are effectively blinded. They all attack on their turn, they all miss.

The monster, on the next turn, uses its action to tumble through one of them (in order to run away and escape). I know that no one can do an Attack of Opportunity (since they can't see the monster), but could the tumble automatically succeed? Or will the monster need to roll normally, despite being 'invisible' due to darkness?

 

[SuperTD]

By RAW, they will still need to make the check as blindness does not impose penalties on ability checks other than those that require sight, of which acrobatics is not one.

 

[aco175]

A good use would be to tumble past a blocking enemy in a hall to get past him, but you would still get an AO if you moved away from him to get to the mage further in. You could bonus action to tumble behind him and use your action to disengage and them move without an AO.

Now if you are a thief and can use Cunning Action to disengage as a bonus action, but you still only get 1 bonus action. A halfling can move through enemies larger than themselves.

 

[Ristamar]

By RAW, they will still need to make the check as blindness does not impose penalties on ability checks other than those that require sight, of which acrobatics is not one.

By RAW, I don't believe there are any skills that always require sight. Even Perception can sometimes solely rely on hearing without visualization.

As such, I think any DM could comfortably rule that evasive tumbling around an enemy requires sight in most circumstances.