Beefermatic
Hero
Either way if you do or don't I like IH flaws and all.
I'll let her know you approve btw. Lol.
I'll let her know you approve btw. Lol.
A pair of numbers-based issues: how do you all handle them?
Akira Whitlock
Explorer
All dnd 5e status effects are lumped together under advantage/disadvantage.
In pf 2e there are 40 ish status effects.
In 5e level 20 characters would have 5 ish "wonderous items" vs pathfinder the amount items you carry is based off of the gold in your pocket. The 5e system even shows this by not having prices for magical items.
In pf 2e there are 40 ish status effects.
In 5e level 20 characters would have 5 ish "wonderous items" vs pathfinder the amount items you carry is based off of the gold in your pocket. The 5e system even shows this by not having prices for magical items.
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Upper_Krust
Hero
Quick aside - have any of you checked out the miniatures you get in the Massive Darkness 2: Hellscape kickstarter. Some very cool epic level monster minis.
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Beefermatic
Hero
I haven't but I might go check it out now. Thanks!Quick aside - have any of you checked out the miniatures you get in the Massive Darkness 2: Hellscape kickstarter. Some very cool epic level monster minis.
Massive Darkness 2: Hellscape
Fight the source of evil in this stand-alone sequel to Massive Darkness, with new art, incredible minis, and revamped gameplay.
Upper_Krust
Hero
Hey Akira mate! 
Which is very intuitive and doesn't require any math.
I'm looking at the online list now and I'd guess it takes up about 6-8 pages in the books and you'd need to look up each every time to recall what they actually did.
The problem that 5E's correcting (and I did something similar in the Immortals Handbook with a 4 artifact limit) is the classic Monty Haul item bloat that high level characters ALWAYS end up with.
Having 100+ magic items is a bit cumbersome and when you think about it makes each item LESS special.
Which is very intuitive and doesn't require any math.
I'm looking at the online list now and I'd guess it takes up about 6-8 pages in the books and you'd need to look up each every time to recall what they actually did.
The problem that 5E's correcting (and I did something similar in the Immortals Handbook with a 4 artifact limit) is the classic Monty Haul item bloat that high level characters ALWAYS end up with.
Having 100+ magic items is a bit cumbersome and when you think about it makes each item LESS special.
Beefermatic
Hero
What about the Sadims though? How will they have their thousand magic rings and several crowns? Lol
Upper_Krust
Hero
Hey Beefy mate!
Well most of the Sadim's rings and crowns might be for adornment purposes and non-magical.
Well most of the Sadim's rings and crowns might be for adornment purposes and non-magical.
Akira Whitlock
Explorer
But then thats the thing. Some people prefer the "diablo" approach to loot where they get mountains of loot and are able to sift through and pick and choose what they wear. Obviously bland style +1 magic resistance cloak is kinda meh but add something to it that makes it unique and suddenly players have to pick between a +2 with a perk and a +3 with nothing. If your items are bland make them interesting.
I have a veteran group that like added complexity and are unburdened by a plethora of rules, numbers and if statements on excel.
Noice minis.
I have a veteran group that like added complexity and are unburdened by a plethora of rules, numbers and if statements on excel.
Noice minis.
Upper_Krust
Hero
Hey Akira mate!
I think that's more appropriate for video games where you can have multiple abilities and items giving percentile bonuses and penalty trade offs.
That said, 5E (AFAIK) lets you OWN multiple items - it simply limits the number of items you can use at any one time.
Well what you could have are Artifacts that you could 'fuse' multiple items, perhaps stacking 'perks' (as you put it) for a trade off in bonuses.
Well I am sure many groups like that exist but they are probably the exception not the rule.
I suspect such groups will gravitate to epic play though.
They were very sexy.
I think that's more appropriate for video games where you can have multiple abilities and items giving percentile bonuses and penalty trade offs.
That said, 5E (AFAIK) lets you OWN multiple items - it simply limits the number of items you can use at any one time.
Well what you could have are Artifacts that you could 'fuse' multiple items, perhaps stacking 'perks' (as you put it) for a trade off in bonuses.
Well I am sure many groups like that exist but they are probably the exception not the rule.
I suspect such groups will gravitate to epic play though.
They were very sexy.
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