D&D General A paladin just joined the group. I'm a necromancer.

[Maxperson]

Vader does not have to serve from fear. He can serve Palpatine from greed.
Greed for power, authority, knowledge (Sith secrets).

I looked at the Sith code, and it does seem rather CE once you look at it. However not all Sith followed it in an CE fashion. Some were kinda LE and Vader from reading the books, was more LE.

 

[Eltab]

My reading of the books is spotty. What I know of the Sith Code comes from the Darth Bane trilogy. (Which I recommend.)

 

[Umbran]

Hey @Umbran, what is your take on the stance of,” I’m going to keep on posting at someone until they agree with me?”

Mod Note:
My take on this is twofold:

1) Next time you have an issue, you should report the post, rather than use the mention feature. I am not the only moderator who can deal with your issue, and the proper feature gives us documentation back in the mods only spaces.

2) Folks should not be jerks to each other. So, @Flamestrike please back off.

 

[Flamestrike]

Mod Note:
My take on this is twofold:

1) Next time you have an issue, you should report the post, rather than use the mention feature. I am not the only moderator who can deal with your issue, and the proper feature gives us documentation back in the mods only spaces.

2) Folks should not be jerks to each other. So, @Flamestrike please back off.

Roger.

Sorry, I should have known better. I just blocked and its been a much more enjoyable experience since.

 

[Flamestrike]

It would be if it wasn't an actual code that they follow literally religiously.

Dude, the Sith code is: 'Be Chaotic evil'.

If you're following that religiously, you're chaotic evil, not 'lawful'!

He used that to power the force, yes. He was not always walking in fits of rage, hating everything and in fear.

Yes. Yes he was. He was in constant fear, hatred and rage. Literally all the time. Supported by every book ever written about the dude ever. When Ashoka force sensed him, the first thing she noted was his hatred, fear and rage.

Then underneath that, she figured out who he was.

And yet backed his men up against others, obeyed his superior, Moff Tarkin who was not a force user, sought out an ally to overcome the emperor, rather than succeed on his strength alone, etc.

Backed up his men? This is the dude we regularly see murdering his own men!

The Mafia, a LE organization with LE bosses also experienced betrayals. At the end of the day they are EVIL. Evil betrays, even lawful evil. It just doesn't betray as often or willy nilly.

I wouldn't call the Mafia LE. I would actually call it NE.

 

[Maxperson]

Backed up his men? This is the dude we regularly see murdering his own men!

Those weren't his. They were the Emperors.

I wouldn't call the Mafia LE. I would actually call it NE.

Perhaps that's where the issue lies. The Mafia is the classic example of a LE society.

 

[Coroc]

The alignment the player choses is his alignment. You don't get to dismiss it by calling it "an evil PC that has good written on his sheet".



No idea what a book of exalted deeds is or does. But I do know that a players alignment is their alignment and it's their choice for what their alignment is. This isn't 3.5e anymore

So if a player plays a LG paladin according to you the paladin will stay LG as long as the player has this alignment written down on his sheet, no matter what actions? Even if slaughtering the innocent any constructed justification will do to argue that it is within the tenants and oath?
And the DM can never interfere and declare that the paladin has fallen and his alignment has changed to evil, because that is only for the player to decide?

 

[Seramus]

Now I want to play an Oath of Devotion paladin who Animates Dead. Probably a Palock.

 

[Coroc]

Now I want to play an Oath of Devotion paladin who Animates Dead. Probably a Palock.

No that is a Necrodin. The Palock uses hex and smites.

 

[Seramus]

No that is a Necrodin. The Palock uses hex and smites.

Necrodin sounds good to me! Hrrm. What would be a good way to build it?