AC 56 at level 6! You too can do it!

[Infiniti2000]

As opposed to where it states that "One object, creature, or spell is the target"?

Huh? How's that opposed to what I said? One creature. A targeted dispel magic against a creature, not a spell (note the emphasis in this sentence). Are you saying that a targeted dispel magic against a creature removes only 1 spell?

 

[KarinsDad]

Huh? How's that opposed to what I said? One creature. A targeted dispel magic against a creature, not a spell (note the emphasis in this sentence).

Maybe where you explicitly stated that it does not target a spell and Hyp pointed out that it can?

When you cast a targeted (greater) dispel magic, you target a creature, not a spell.

As opposed to where it states that "One object, creature, or spell is the target"?

 

[Infiniti2000]

Maybe where you explicitly stated that it does not target a spell and Hyp pointed out that it can?

I did not state that as you are taking my statement out of context. Nevertheless, if that's the miscommunication, I can understand the confusion. If it helps, to put it in context, change my statement to this:

When you cast a targeted (greater) dispel magic against a creature, you target a creature, not a spell.

The context is that we were discussing targeting a creature. Maybe it was just an assumption and it was missed. No big deal. Move along, people.

 

[werk]

Wow! This thread reminds me of just how much unbalancing crap has been published for D&D.

It reminds me that people actually use (or hope to use) it in play.

I'd chalk this up to an exercise in printed rule gymnastics rather than a suitable player character.

Done with this thread, have fun.

 

[satori01]

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You know, you're right.

And the creature description doesn't say anything about being immune to the more fleshy concerns that you would expect to be included with being a possessed stone statue.

Dear god this is a poorly thought out creature. It's an animated statue... but it's an outsider, it has no crit immunity, thus (for example) it's vulnerable to Wounding weapons. What in the sam hell does a statue bleed? It needs to breathe for crap's sake. You can drown a statue. Aargh! >_<

I find it a rather interesting creature myself, one that has a magic greater than it's statistics. literally it brings life to stone, it returns what could be the spirit of a Dwarven Hero to life again in a representative statue. Imagine being a Dwarf and going through a tomb for a much needed Mcguffin, and encountering one of these things. Pretty moving wouldn't it be?

For Americans it would be like going to the Lincoln memorial and actually being able to speak to a Living Lincoln made out of marble!
Altering shape into a Dwarven Ancestor might be technically valid under the rules, but I would say it cheapens the magic inherent to the creature. As a DM, as an arbiter of the mind of the designers, and a fully vested participant in a shared world of myth and magic, I would probably vote no.

Which brings me to my final point on these super duper High AC or High damage builds. Most players also feel they are fully vested participants in a shared world. Most players want to play their characters, not just collect leet powers.

On paper it seems fine to grab any magic items you want, and make a Outsider Sun Elf Wizard/Monk that transforms into a statue of the Dwarven Lincoln anytime he wants........but how would you actually play that? You are not talking defaming a culture here, you are not talking flag burning here, you are talking about transforming into another culture's symbol just for the cool Natural Armor bonus....that is some pretty heavy stuff, if you put thought into it.

Of course if you are just a human in a funny suit, and all powers are equal.............

 

[pallandrome]

I gotta be honest, If I wanted to powergame, I'd just build a Pun-Pun. Realistically, no DM worth his salt is ever going to allow such silliness in a game.

 

[Goblyn]

I'm starting to think that a bigger challenge would be to get a character to level 6 with AC 10. Not 10+; just 10.

 

[Cabral]

On paper it seems fine to grab any magic items you want, and make a Outsider Sun Elf Wizard/Monk that transforms into a statue of the Dwarven Lincoln anytime he wants........but how would you actually play that? You are not talking defaming a culture here, you are not talking flag burning here, you are talking about transforming into another culture's symbol just for the cool Natural Armor bonus....that is some pretty heavy stuff, if you put thought into it.

It's okay, really. He's a quarter dwarf on his mother's side ...

 

[Darklone]

I'm starting to think that a bigger challenge would be to get a character to level 6 with AC 10. Not 10+; just 10.

Not difficult. We had such a sorcerer... he used that Sonic Orb thingie. Simply blasted everything away.

 

[the Jester]

*pokes head in*

Still no put up, but at least he's shut up.

*shrug*