Adaptation of elves. Lvl adjustment needed

[Fealak]

Greetings,

A very long time ago, Wolfspider give some new elven races. I tried to fit them for my campaign and I really need to know if my new versions fits with its level adjustments...

I think the elven races would be like this:

Sindar and Silvan elves (They are the same but living in different locations I think)

· +2 Dexterity, +2 Wisdom, +2 Charisma
· Medium-size
· Base speed 30 feet
· Low-light vision
· Immunity to sleep spells and enchantments and non-magical diseases. Sindar, as all Elves, are immune to aging. They do not sleep, meditating instead for about four hours every day.
· +2 racial bonus on Listen, Search, and Spot checks.
+4 racial bonus on Knowledge (Nature), and Perform (Sing) checks [Silvan] or +4 racial bonus on Craft (Make boats) and Profession (Sailor) [Sindar].
· Lore skills are considered cross-class skills.
. 1xDay Pass without trace.
. Inmunity to ghost fear (rembember in Middle Earth there is only human ghosts).
· Level Adjustment: +1

Noldor

· +2 Strength, +2 Dexterity, +2 Wisdom, +4 Charisma
· Medium-size
· Base speed 30 feet
· Low-light vision
· Immunity to sleep spells and enchantments and non-magical diseases. Sindar, as all Elves, are immune to aging. They do not sleep, meditating instead for about four hours every day.
· +2 racial bonus on Listen, Search, and Spot checks.
+4 racial bonus on Craft (Blacksmithing), and Appraise checks.
· Lore skills are considered cross-class skills.
. 1xDay Pass without trace.
. Inmunity to ghost fear (rembember in Middle Earth there is only human ghosts).
. Inner Light: +2 saving throws of Fortitude and Will checks vs The Shadow (from any source).
· Level Adjustment: +2

Dunedain (They are not Elves but I need to fix them for my campaign)

. Like a PHB Human except:

. +2 Carisma
. No 1st bonus feat
. Lvl adjustment: 0 (I really need the Dunedain have this lvl adjustment and I don´t know if its fair enough. I need a solution please!)

I really want to know what do you think about them. Thanks a lot!

 

[Bront]

The two elves should likely be raised one more ECL, but the Dunedain are fine. I"ve heard it said somewhere that a feat is worth about +2 in a stat. Not sure I agree, but in this case, it seems fine.

I see all of these elves have at least a +2 Chr. Why? If every race has a +2 Chr, then you're better off simply dropping it. It is no longer above average.

 

[Technik4]

I see all of these elves have at least a +2 Chr. Why? If every race has a +2 Chr, then you're better off simply dropping it. It is no longer above average.

I'm sure dwarves, men of gondor and rohan, and hobbits don't receive Cha bonuses....

Edited: It's for his particular campaign, but I'm sure these aren't the only races. It may however show a greater-than-normal disparity.

Technik

 

[Fealak]

Thank you to all!

Yes, there aren´t the only races in my campaign! I really want Sindar and Silvan elves have level adjustment +1 and Noldor +2... So if anyone can help me to adjust the races or give me some advice about what to do I really thank him a lot Thank you very much for your help!

 

[Bront]

Ok, clearing up that they are not the only races out there then,...

On a second glance, Sindar and Silvan are likely LA 1 (Compair them to the Aasimar or Tiefling). What do you mean lore skills thoug?

I'm not a big fan of races with any more than a +2 to a stat besides strength, so not sure how much I like the Noldor. They're borderline ECL 2-3. If you droped their CRH bonus down to +2, they're probably ECL 2

 

[Fealak]

Hi again!

Well, the Sindar and Silvan elves have Lore skills not cross-class (It was a mistake). That skills are Knowledge (Nature),etc... And they can spend a skill point on that apart from his class.
I want to modify Silvan and Sindar elves trying to be as fair as I can so I can drop some of his features or try to adapt them fitting best +1 level adjustment.

About Noldor, Its true they have a lot of bonuses in Charisma and I can down their bonus to +2 But It sufficient to still be +2 lvl adjustment?

Clearing the situation...

Sindar and Silvan (equal lvl adjustment +1) and Noldor (The same but charisma +2 instead +4 --> level adjustment +2, [Anything else?]).

Thanks a lot again! If I mistake something sorry but I try to do my best speaking and reading english!

 

[Baronovan]

I've actually got insanely detailed material regarding these elves, as well as the Men of Middle-earth. I'll post it if anyone is interested.

 

[Laman Stahros]

I've actually got insanely detailed material regarding these elves, as well as the Men of Middle-earth. I'll post it if anyone is interested.

Post! Post! Post!

Oops, did I type that or think it?

Please post! Don't tease like that!

 

[Baronovan]

Okay! Okay!

 

[Fealak]

WOoooow

Hi again!

This elves are very powerful!! Yes I know Tolkien elves are but... This are too powerful and unplayable! :S I don´t know how can any player play a +7 lvl adjustment or simply a +3!!
Well, thanks anyway because in that document there is a lot of information Do you have any other document about other races of Middle Earth? Thank you very much! but I still need something playable that fits as much as it can to the Middle Earth elven races...