Advice on 9th level Monk doing 6d6 damage per strike...

[Thanee]

If he is playing a Monk and using the INA for unarmed damage, this will no longer be true when he gets to 4th level.

Actually, this is wrong. It will remain true for all eternity.

And no, that doesn't mean they will never gain a level.
And yes, it's not overly serious (but true!).

Bye
Thanee

 

[IcyCool]

This advice is about what I would have typed anyway, so I'll pump IcyCool's ego and quote it!

Yay!

 

[KarinsDad]

Many would (and do) say that literally by RAW it is allowed.

Well, they are mistaken.

It's a very active debate that should not be re-hashed here; suffice it say that both sides have pretty firm beliefs about why they are correct and so you should probably not believe either one but make your own educated conclusion.

I did. I just went to RAW.

IMPROVED UNARMED STRIKE [GENERAL]

Benefit: You are considered to be armed even when unarmed —that is, you do not provoke attacks of opportunity from armed opponents when you attack them while unarmed. However, you still get an attack of opportunity against any opponent who makes an unarmed attack on you.

In addition, your unarmed strikes can deal lethal or nonlethal damage, at your option.

Normal: Without this feat, you are considered unarmed when attacking with an unarmed strike, and you can deal only nonlethal damage with such an attack.

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Natural Weapons: Natural weapons are weapons that are physically a part of a creature. A creature making a melee attack with a natural weapon is considered armed and does not provoke attacks of opportunity.

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IMPROVED NATURAL ATTACK [GENERAL]

Prerequisite: Natural weapon, base attack bonus +4.

Although Improved Unarmed Strike gives a creature the same types of benefits as a Natural Weapon, it does not give him a Natural Weapon. Core race monks are not creatures with Natural Weapons. Core races do not have Natural Weapons listed in their stat blocks (course, Humans are not even in the MM) and the IUS feat does not give this.

By literal RAW.

Note: Natural Weapons cannot be used to do nonlethal damage with no penalties. Unarmed Strikes can. They are two different but similar game mechanics and abilities.

 

[Artoomis]

I'm willing to leave the INA debate to another thread. It's enough for the OP to know that allowing INA as a monk feat is debatable => It's not, in fact, "something everyone does" or a "clear Core Rules interpretation".

As for the rest (Goliath:No large Monk damage, Monk's Belt: No Big Deal, Fanged Ring: Not balanced, inclusion is completely a DMs call), the OP should also see that there is significantly less debate.

The Goliath large damage some down to to things:

1. It's not mentioned speifcally, so no large damage need apply.

or

2. It's implied, and not actually permiited or denied, so it can be granted.

Either way is fine, really. It depends upon how much you read into the description. Either you go with the fact that it was not mentioned and therefore cannot be allowed or you decide the general intention is there and allow it.

*shrug* Up to you as DM to decide on that one. You can decide that it was written up very carefuilly and left out natural attacks deliberately or decide it was an oversight and should have been included and is indeed included, by implication.

The "powerful build" grants certain things and denies others (size and reach), but makes no mention of natural attacks. But, then again, half-giants (powerful build) don't have a natural attack, so one would not expect it to be mentioned.

 

[Artoomis]

Is Goliath an LA+1 creature (like a half-giant)? I personally tend to be a bit more generous in my allowances if they are fully paid for in things like delayed leveling from LA.

 

[Thanee]

Is Goliath an LA+1 creature?

Yep.

Bye
Thanee

 

[mikebr99]

Is Goliath an LA+1 creature?

Yes.

Mike

 

[KarinsDad]

Actually, this is wrong. It will remain true for all eternity.

And no, that doesn't mean they will never gain a level.
And yes, it's not overly serious (but true!).

If you say so. Course, if you actually explained what you meant as opposed to attempting to be vague and mysterious, the rest of us might understand what the heck you are talking about.

 

[werk]

Is Goliath an LA+1 creature (like a half-giant)? I personally tend to be a bit more generous in my allowances if they are fully paid for in things like delayed leveling from LA.

Yes, LA+1, Races of Stone.

+4 Str, -2 Dex, +2 Con, and powerful build. Most everything else is negligible.

 

[Nail]

*shrug* Up to you as DM to decide on that one. You can decide that it was written up very carefuilly and left out natural attacks deliberately or decide it was an oversight and should have been included and is indeed included, by implication.

A DM decide in any way he choses. That goes without saying.

But in this case, all the DM (and player) has to do is read the text. The Powerful Build ability allows a goliath to use larger size weapons at no penalty. Read that statement carefully; it does not mean any attack (weapon natural weapon, or otherwise) is treated as one size catagory larger. There is a significant difference there.

Try this:
#1) Can a Goliath chose to use a size Medium Weapon? a size Large weapon?

#2) Can a Goliath chose to use size Medium Unarmed Strike? a size Large Unarmed Strike?