Afghanistan D20
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HalWhitewyrm
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The game is being put out by Holistic Games.
Here's the blurb:
The first in our new Real-Life Roleplaying line, Afghanistan: d20 is a stand alone game supplement providing rules, background, equipment, settings and scenarios that give players a chance to roleplay in the war against terrorism. This complex conflict is examined from multiple perspectives, including the history of the region and other nations' roles in it. #801, ISBN: 1-888906-89-8, $20.00
And the Afghanistan d20 product page.
As far as I know, the game is still slated for release, which depending on which side of the fence you are sitting is either a really cool thing, or a sad sad thing.
Here's the blurb:
The first in our new Real-Life Roleplaying line, Afghanistan: d20 is a stand alone game supplement providing rules, background, equipment, settings and scenarios that give players a chance to roleplay in the war against terrorism. This complex conflict is examined from multiple perspectives, including the history of the region and other nations' roles in it. #801, ISBN: 1-888906-89-8, $20.00
And the Afghanistan d20 product page.
As far as I know, the game is still slated for release, which depending on which side of the fence you are sitting is either a really cool thing, or a sad sad thing.
I have a copy right here - what do you want to know?
Doug Justice
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Hey, Matt did you pick it up somewhere or is it "one of 'em inside deals?" 
I would like to know what the classes and the prestige classes are? For example, can you be a Delta operative, etc...
Thanks,
Doug
I would like to know what the classes and the prestige classes are? For example, can you be a Delta operative, etc...Thanks,
Doug
We got hold of a copy at Origins.
Races are split into (human) Urban, Rural and Upper Class - nice touch. For classes, you have Clergy, Combat Medic, Officer, Scout, Soldier, Smuggler and Technician. There are NPC classes of Grunt and Observer.
Prestige classes are Combat Engineer, Covert Agent, Dervish, Sniper, Spec Ops and Terrorist Cell Leader.
Overall, I would say the book is okay - I can see the point of it, and could be convinced into playing it. From my own personal point of view, it does not have the atmosphere of, say, Weird Wars II, though mechanically it is better.
That said, if you have a moral problem with the nature of this game, stay away. There is nothing here that will convince you otherwise. If, however, you fancy an evening of kicking terrorist butt (or whatever), it has everything you need.
YMMV.
Races are split into (human) Urban, Rural and Upper Class - nice touch. For classes, you have Clergy, Combat Medic, Officer, Scout, Soldier, Smuggler and Technician. There are NPC classes of Grunt and Observer.
Prestige classes are Combat Engineer, Covert Agent, Dervish, Sniper, Spec Ops and Terrorist Cell Leader.
Overall, I would say the book is okay - I can see the point of it, and could be convinced into playing it. From my own personal point of view, it does not have the atmosphere of, say, Weird Wars II, though mechanically it is better.
That said, if you have a moral problem with the nature of this game, stay away. There is nothing here that will convince you otherwise. If, however, you fancy an evening of kicking terrorist butt (or whatever), it has everything you need.
YMMV.
Ranger REG
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Any chance of convincing Holistic to market the game under a different package?
How are some of the rules mechanics? And can you elaborate the differences between Wierd War II and that game?
How are some of the rules mechanics? And can you elaborate the differences between Wierd War II and that game?
Kaptain_Kantrip
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I predict (with Nostradamus-like clarity) that the game will flop because it is being released way too late to be timely with the whole 9/11 thing. Nobody cares about Afghanistan anymore. The situation has moved to other countries. The game might have done well if it had been released in the wake of 9/11, but now is just way too late. Holistic's distribution is rather poor, so that's another factor to consider. On top of that, there is the whole tastelessness factor that will likely turn off a large number of potential buyers. I don't have a problem with the game's taste or lack thereof, but the other issues I outlined above will certainly serve as effective stumbling blocks to the product's success, IMO. I'm not buying it because it doesn't interest me except as a novelty. YMMV.
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HalWhitewyrm
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Aside from the fact that I don't like the idea of setting a game in based on this topic at the moment (not gonna go into reasons), I think the game is simply too late. Not necessarily because of the "too late after 9/11" thing (which I think would have made it even more tasteless, as it would have been an obvious choice to capitalize on sentimentalism and anguish and that stuff), but simply because of the fact that with d20 Modern just around the corner, the basic system for modern-based games is about to be "set in stone", so to speak, and quite probably the game will need revising in order to fall in line with the new set of rules.
While I am as curious as with any other book to take a look at the crunchy bits, I am not even gonna consider buying it because it really has no use to me.
All IMO.
While I am as curious as with any other book to take a look at the crunchy bits, I am not even gonna consider buying it because it really has no use to me.
All IMO.
Ranger REG
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Actually, I have a very opposite reason that the game will not sell well ... it is too soon.Kaptain_Kantrip said:
Well, the average joe on the street may not, but our government cannot afford to ignore this, especially when our talent for foreign politics in the Middle East is about as worse as fresh camel dung. How we deal with Afghanistan after the war will determine how we will deal with the rest of the Middle East and the world.
Puh-lease. We haven't moved away from the Balkan states. More than likely we will monitor Afghanistan for some time, even if not military matter then it will be a diplomatic matter.
But I'm now getting off-topic.
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