Age of Mortals - The Knights of Solamnia

[Brother Shatterstone]

Its relative...*snip*

It might be... I can only quote the book.

Although a newly rediscovered magic, mysticism is perhaps the least obtrusive and therefore considered the least dangerous of both arcane and divine magic. Mystics are relatively safe from persecution by anyone. Many go their way in peace,doing what they can to help the suffering, ease pain, and defend the weak.

 

[Kahuna Burger]

After giving it some thought (and noticing how hard its been to find the time to even seriously work on the character) I'm gonna bow out of this game. It seems really cool, but I'm not keeping up with all my PbP obligations as it is and with a face to face gaming weekend to plan for in july...

But thanks to everyone for advice and info.

Kahuna Burger

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

But thanks to everyone for advice and info.

Your welcome. I'm rather sorry to see you go, I have heard good things about you as a player, and DM, but I've never had a chance to find out first hand... :\ Maybe next time. (Good luck and have fun!)

Okay, I have a rough of Aurnia Shatterstone up in the RG. It's still mostly frame but it's got a good keel.

I'm quite proud of the background and personality but it's just not there...

Tomorrow being Friday, which is nearly always half days, so I'll knock her out tomorrow.

Lichtenhart, let me know what age you want, she works just as well as young or older. (I'm thinking early 20's mid at the latest but I will adjust.)

Notes: Has anyone looked into trying to make a Knight of the Rose without gestalt classes? (it's insanely hard.)

Even with Gestalt rules Aurnia is going to need to be a 9th level character just to make the will save requirement. (Reason why she no longer has the Die Hard feat... Even if she could make Sword Knight next level there's no reason to, she would sit in the Sword Knight PrC for four levels)

Though with regular multiclassing this could make the will save easier to make it lowers the BAB on the best class to make it with.

Running totals used
Cleric 3rd level BAB: +3 Fort: +4 Will: +4
KoC 3rd level BAB: +6 Fort: +9 Will: +5
KoS 3rd level BAB: +9 Fort: +3 Will: +8

Feats: Assuming Human
Honor Bound – Human
Endurance - (1st)
Die Hard – (KoC)
Mounted Combat - (2nd)
Leadership - (3rd)

That’s scary harsh to me… (anyhow just some random thoughts)

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

They're a very powerful class. Full BAB, d10 hit dice, two strong saves, full caster progression, and class abilities which almost match those of a paladin AND a bard? If it wasn't so hard to get into, I'd argue against them being balanced.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

They're a very powerful class. Full BAB, d10 hit dice, two strong saves, full caster progression, and class abilities which almost match those of a paladin AND a bard?

I'm not seeing that to be honest... Knight of the Crown is a nice PrC that any fighter type should look at but it's hardly broken.

There's no way a straight fighter can make it into the Knights of the Sword... (Need to be able to cast divine spells)

Knight of the sword only gives a d8, and low-level paladin abilities, smite, aura, turn undead.

Knight of the Rose, finishes off the paladin "template" by giving divine grace, detect evil, aura of good, and a few bard powers... While not gaining upon the ability to turn undead for a few levels... (from KoR 1 to KoR 4)

Give me a Faerûn paladin any day. (minus fluff)

If it wasn't so hard to get into, I'd argue against them being balanced.

At least we agree that the higher orders are hard to get into.

 

[Creamsteak]

And, given the experiences of most Knights of the Rose that I can recall, they would have to have spent a few levels in each prior PrC (I'd say 4 or 5!) before going there. The class itself seems meant for epic characters to me. Not necessarily epic in power, but still quite epic in general.

More off-topic Dragonlance grumblings are fine here, as far as I'm concerned. I'm interested in your perspectives quite a bit.

 

[evileeyore]

I'm not seeing that to be honest... Knight of the Crown is a nice PrC that any fighter type should look at but it's hardly broken.

I think Paxus was refering to KoR only. The other two PrCs are very nice, and much easier to get into.

Knight of the Crown is the fighters PrC. It is pretty easy to get to.

Knight of the Sword is the Clerics PrC (after wasting atleast one in KoC).Is a bit rougher, but a few levels of KoC will get some of the requirements.

Knight of the Rose is 'meant' to represent Paladins. It is also the roughest. You really aren't meant to hit it until after 10th.. 6th lvl Clc +1 lvl KoC + 3 lvl KoS at bare minimums (without Gestalt). (PS: You are required to hang out in KoS for atleast 3 lvls.)

Knight of the Rose, finishes off the paladin "template" by giving divine grace, detect evil, aura of good, and a few bard powers... While not gaining upon the ability to turn undead for a few levels... (from KoR 1 to KoR 4)

You forgot the full caster progression, which IMO is a very plussy kinda thing.

I won't be going towards KoR, but I don't want to get those other feats.

--EvilE

 

[Lichtenhart]

I'd love to get to KoR instead, especially since KoS doesn't seem all that sweet to me compared to KoC, but I love it for what it represents. My only concern is that I have seen very few PbPs where characters gained that many levels. I tend to love high level games when I have a lot to play with on my sheet.

 

[Lichtenhart]

What year is the one where we start gaming? It came to my mind that if we spellcasters took our first levels during the drain of magic, then we probably just found ourselves capable of impressive things.

 

[Lichtenhart]

Would taking Knight of the Sword as a class and keeping on advancing with Knight of the Crown with the other be a big no-no? Probably it is, but I'd love it.