Age of Worms H/C - unlikely :(

[Alzrius]

Well this just ticks me off. The Age of Worms is my favorite of all of Paizo's Adventure Paths, and to be told that WotC won't let it go to print because they don't want the competition is short-sighted and, I think, foolish (to say nothing of unfair). The book would actually have the D&D logo on it, and most of the market won't make the distinction between Paizo D&D and WotC D&D; when the book sells well, people would come back for more D&D adventures, buying them from WotC and increasing sales all around.

 

[Emirikol]

I could live with it if I felt WOTC was putting out "quality" adventures. But honestly, has anything they've produced been anywhere near the quality of Shackled City, or AOW?

I'm with you here. I think AoW is pretty weak and I'm currently running it (were at some 15th level scenario right now), but it's MILES above anything WotC or TSR has ever done.

jh

 

[WhatGravitas]

I didn't buy the AoW magazines in anticipation of a hardcover. I'm an idiot.

Ditto. Means I've got to trace back issues. Not neat, but... well, what can I do?

 

[Shroomy]

I wouldn't mind a AoW hardcover, but I don't need one since I own all of the Dungeon issues and most of the relevant Dragon issues. I would like to point out that we really don't know why WoTC has not given Paizo permission to create a hardcover, so the motives we are ascribing to them are speculative.

 

[Mark Hope]

I've heard that Red Hand of Doom is pretty good, and I like Expedition to Castle Ravenloft (although, to be fair, that one's not wholly of WotC's making), but I have also heard that some of the more recent adventure offerings from WotC are a bit poor - linear, map-based and combat-based for the most part. Is this true? If so, they're definitely not up to the standard of the AoW (which, although it is linear in overall structure, offers plenty of diversity and diversions along the way).

That said, I'm a Dungeon subscriber and have a huge stack of 1e and 2e adventures that are easy to convert, so I'm a hard sell when it comes to adventures. Necromancer Games and Malhavoc had a steady customer in me, but Expedition to Castle Ravenloft was the first WotC adventure that I bought since their original "blue cover" 3.0 adventure path. I've played a couple of Eberron adventures, but wasn't impressed at all. I'd say that WotC really do have something to be worried about as far as competition from Paizo is concerned. Paizo are top of the heap where quality is concerned these days, imho, and I'll definitely be checking out their new line of ogl adventures.

 

[carmachu]

Hell, I own the entire AoW in magazine format, and I''d STILL buy the hardcover.

What issues does the Age of Worms cover? I was anticipating a hardcover, and looks like I'll be having to get the back issues instead.

 

[Rodrigo Istalindir]

What issues does the Age of Worms cover? I was anticipating a hardcover, and looks like I'll be having to get the back issues instead.

On a related note, when did Savage Tide start?

 

[Erik Mona]

Two important points need to be added to this thread.

1. Wizards has never actually said "no" to our Age of Worms hardcover proposals. They have said, repeatedly, "not now." I've dealt with the company for five years (and worked there for three before that). "No" and "not now" are not necessarily the same thing.

2. Wizards has never told us why, exactly, they haven't let us do this. The obvious reason is that our license with them covers magazines and not hardcovers. Hardcovers must be negotiated seperately, and hence require special permissions. So all of the speculation that Wizards is "blocking" an Age of Worms hardcover because they are afraid of the competition, because our adventures make them look bad, etc. is exactly that: Speculation.

Even I don't know for sure what's going on behind the scenes at Wizards of the Coast.

But I'm not done asking about this product, and I haven't given up on it yet.

--Erik Mona
Publisher
Paizo Publishing, LLC

 

[Erik Mona]

What issues does the Age of Worms cover? I was anticipating a hardcover, and looks like I'll be having to get the back issues instead.

Dungeon 124-135.

--Erik

 

[Dragonhelm]

What issues does the Age of Worms cover? I was anticipating a hardcover, and looks like I'll be having to get the back issues instead.

That's exactly what I did. Now I wish I had gotten that Dungeon subscription.