Older Beholder
Hero
Fantastic series! Now, bring on Loki season 2!
Ahsoka - SPOILERS
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pukunui
Legend
I'm pretty sure Huyang referred to him as Caleb at one point during the conversation. Ahsoka must have explained to him that Caleb Dume changed his name after the fall.
Yeah, I was totally expecting something like this:
Given how cautious Thrawn was about expending his resources, if he has any Defenders, he wouldn't have wanted to risk losing them. (I'm sure he was fully expecting to lose the two TIEs he did send out.)
On a different note: since Ezra mentioned that Thrawn "woke up" the Great Mothers ... could it be that the sarcophagi-like things taken from the catacombs are actually Nightsisters in stasis (either instead of or in addition to Thrawn's dead troopers)? I note that Thrawn went straight to Dathomir. Could it be that the deal he made with the Great Mothers involved re-establishing their order on Dathomir?
It's interesting, too, that the Great Mothers on Peridea knew about Mother Talzin and her magic green-flame sword (which she was shown conjuring up in the Clone Wars). I also wonder what happened to the blade. Does Ahsoka now have it, or did it dissolve back into nothingness after Morgan died? (I don't know why, but I'm also impatient to know if Ahsoka makes herself a new white-bladed lightsaber. They haven't touched on the whole white blades thing on screen. The idea that she took some red crystals from a defeated inquisitor and purified them to make them white is from her novel. Maybe we'll see her creating them in animated form in a new Tales from the Jedi episode. I believe they are going to make more of those.)
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Zardnaar
Legend
What's wrong wi5h the pacing? I waited 30
It was the reverse of a last minute rescue or last minute escape for the heroes.
I liked it but it's kind of a prequel to the main event.
It was the reverse of a last minute rescue or last minute escape for the heroes.
I liked it but it's kind of a prequel to the main event.
Enevhar Aldarion
Hero
Wow, so many more complaints and petty nitpicks here than any other place online where I follow the show. All 8 episodes were fun and entertaining and not once did I feel like I was about to take a nap, unlike with Andor, where maybe half of the episodes almost had me dozing off from the slowness and boredom.
pukunui
Legend
As I've already said, the runtime for Ahsoka was approximately the same a for the first and last seasons of Rebels, and yet the latter show packed so much more action and actual 'stuff' than Ahsoka did. When you boil it down, Ahsoka had very little action. It was mostly just people talking with lots of pauses for dramatic effect. They seriously could have tightened up the pacing by editing out a lot of stuff. All through this series, I found myself impatiently wanting them to just get on with it. I did not feel that way watching Andor.
Honestly, the first two seasons of The Mandalorian really knocked it out of the park, as far as I'm concerned. But the wheels started to fall off with the Boba Fett spin-off. They kind of righted themselves with Andor, then wobbled again with The Mandalorian S3, and now they're still wobbling with Ahsoka. Everyone's hailing Filoni as the savior of Star Wars, but I honestly think he's better with animated Star Wars than live action. I have no real beef with Jon Favreau, but I'm also wondering if maybe he should stick to acting.
I think I might be more critical of Ahsoka than I might ordinarily be of a Star Wars show because I gave myself such high expectations, and it definitely did not live up to them.
Older Beholder
Hero
Andor was meant to be 5 seasons, but the main actor didn't want to sign on for that long, so they condensed it into 2.
The first 3 episodes that had flashbacks to when he was a child, I'm guessing that would have been season 1.
In a way, I think they were lucky they couldn't end up doing it how it was originally planned.
Clint_L
Legend
I don't blame the creators so much as the Disney+ corporate vision. The lesson they seemed to take from the MCU's astonishing initial run, up to End Game, is that as long as you add easter eggs and tie-ins, the audience will keep coming back, eager for the next thing.
But the initial phases of the MCU worked because they were ultimately built around complete character arcs for Iron Man and Captain America. Each movie told its own story while advancing that meta-story in meaningful ways, or the arc of an important supporting character. So the while first 20 films built up to End Game, each was meaningful in its own right. They weren't mere prequels.
But the Disney+ model is that everything is a prequel. I think the only reason that Andor works as well as it does is that everyone knows the main character dies in the end, so the writers had a lot more freedom to explore his character arc without needed to get him to a certain place for the next thing to happen.
Most of these series are just...basically pointless. Set-up for the next blockbuster "event," but with no compelling reason to engage with what we are currently watching. It's all just becoming self-referential, corporate pablum. Content for the sake of content. They treat the audience with no respect; they are just serving paint by numbers art that eschews risk. They treat us like we will freak out if confronted by a new idea (which, to be fair, is kind of what happened with The Last Jedi).
But the initial phases of the MCU worked because they were ultimately built around complete character arcs for Iron Man and Captain America. Each movie told its own story while advancing that meta-story in meaningful ways, or the arc of an important supporting character. So the while first 20 films built up to End Game, each was meaningful in its own right. They weren't mere prequels.
But the Disney+ model is that everything is a prequel. I think the only reason that Andor works as well as it does is that everyone knows the main character dies in the end, so the writers had a lot more freedom to explore his character arc without needed to get him to a certain place for the next thing to happen.
Most of these series are just...basically pointless. Set-up for the next blockbuster "event," but with no compelling reason to engage with what we are currently watching. It's all just becoming self-referential, corporate pablum. Content for the sake of content. They treat the audience with no respect; they are just serving paint by numbers art that eschews risk. They treat us like we will freak out if confronted by a new idea (which, to be fair, is kind of what happened with The Last Jedi).
Zardnaar
Legend
Erm there was a combat scene every episode iirc. Andor was very slow paced.
Last season of Rebels had 3 seasons of world building leading up to it. They just had to tie things up.
Season one of Rebels generally regarded as the weakest one picked up half way through.
Pacing may have been deliberate I was chomping at the bit for Thrawn reveal episode 6. Waited 30 years for live action Thrawn a few weeks either way won't hurt.
They had a 13 year gap to fill in.
Kaodi
Legend
The execution of The Last Jedi was just so weird though. Like, the things about it that were good were good, but it is incredibly ironic how it made a hash of some of the details given that Rian when onto to make a very popular murder mystery, a genre where generally flubbing details is very bad .
We would have been better served if Rian had made either the first or the last movie I think, rather than the one in the middle (if he were similarly limited to one).
We would have been better served if Rian had made either the first or the last movie I think, rather than the one in the middle (if he were similarly limited to one).
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