All Dailies should be *reliable*

[Voss]

If it weren't for the fact that
1)a bunch of other dailys have "on miss" or "effect" abilities
2)there's a fairly easy way to get per encounter re-rolls
3)The Fighter's dailys (or at least the one we've seen) appear to be specifically nerfed to make up for the reliable ability

I would likely think about it, but as it is, no, I'm not interested in this as a house rule.

I am interested in ways to allow for "recharge" mechanics for encounter and daily powers though, although I want to see how the game works in play first.

Yep. I agree most of this. The fighter's daily is reliable because its somewhat weaker than other dailies- its 'extra effect' *is* that it is reliable. For most daily powers, it isn't something that you want to throw around without thought. It needs to be a risk, and something you spend some time setting up. Not just a cycle of 'I blast them again'

 

[Connorsrpg]

Works fine as worded.
A wizards fireball still 'goes off' on a failed roll. The fighter might simply fail to exert themselves as required.

One thing, what exactly does this 'recharge...followed by a number mean? Des anyone get, for eg, recharge 4,5,6???

Please help

C

 

[Surgoshan]

It just means that the ability recharges on a roll of "x" on a d6.

As for dailies being reliable? People have already said it; most wizards dailies have the benefit of extra abilities that land even on a miss, that we've seen.

I also want to add that the defender is pretty much the only character that's intended to be in there mixing it up with enemies all the time. To counter the disadvantage of always being the target, they need abilities that allow them to deal with that. If your controller is hanging out at the back, he's less likely to be a target and consequently won't be quite so likely to need his dailies.

 

[small pumpkin man]

Works fine as worded.
A wizards fireball still 'goes off' on a failed roll. The fighter might simply fail to exert themselves as required.

One thing, what exactly does this 'recharge...followed by a number mean? Des anyone get, for eg, recharge 4,5,6???

Please help

C

It's something used mostly by monsters and in the minis game. It means at the start of the round you roll a d6, and if you roll high enough, the ability (for example, a dragon's breath weapon) recharges.

 

[ptolemy18]

They seem to be making the asme mistake of fire and forget they claim was rampant in 3e; daily's are only usable 1/day,and its no fun if you use your daily and have it miss. So I think it should be that every daily acts like the fighter's *reliable* dailies; i.e. you don't lose the power on a miss. Otherwise I think it will become a popular houserule.

Thoughts?

What's the big deal? In 3E, or any earlier edition of D&D, a spellcaster might have some super-awesome "daily" spell. If the monster gets lucky and makes their saving throw against Finger of Death or whatever, your awesome "daily" power is wasted.

That's just life... call me a masochist, but it never bothered me in the slightest. ~_~ And anyway I'm sure that WotC is aware of this and is making most of the Daily powers Reliable... but as someone who pretty much has always played nothing but spellcasters, I'll *gladly* accept an awesomer non-Reliable Daily power in place of a slightly less awesome Reliable Daily power.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

What's the big deal? In 3E, or any earlier edition of D&D, a spellcaster might have some super-awesome "daily" spell. If the monster gets lucky and makes their saving throw against Finger of Death or whatever, your awesome "daily" power is wasted.

That's just life... call me a masochist, but it never bothered me in the slightest. ~_~ And anyway I'm sure that WotC is aware of this and is making most of the Daily powers Reliable... but as someone who pretty much has always played nothing but spellcasters, I'll *gladly* accept an awesomer non-Reliable Daily power in place of a slightly less awesome Reliable Daily power.

I understood it that "Reliable" is something reserved for the Fighter. At least for now (Core Rulebooks I)

 

[Connorsrpg]

Thanks Surgoshan and Small Pumpkin Man.

I figured it worked something like that, but wasn;t sure which die or when/how often you got to roll.

So this is obviously a sperate roll at the beginning of a creature's turn.

Cheers.

 

[mach1.9pants]

I'm very much against this idea. The risk of failure is what makes it fun, imo.

Roll 3d6 six times and use in order?