Ambiguously Gendered Child of "What is the Hivemind?"

[Rystil Arden]

youve seen simple weapon prof?
all sorts of default monsters have toughness- it was once nearly as common as alertness

I take Toughness out of the default monsters because it isn't fair to the monster. Here are ones I've never seen taken except as prereqs for PrCs, DMing constantly from the inception of these feats to now (and this includes all my many custom NPCs):

Acrobatic, Agile, Animal Affinity, Armour Proficiency (light), Armour Proficiency (medium), Athletic, Deft Hands, Diligent, Endurance, Investigator, Nimble Fingers, Manyshot, Improved Bull Rush, Run, Self-Sufficient, Simple Weapon Proficinecy, Toughness, Track (except as Ranger bonus)

 

[Crothian]

My Dwarf has Endurance, my ranger too manyshot (3.0 so not as a weapon style), my druid took track, ...

the rest I've never personally taken

 

[megamania]

Improved Toughness is not fair to compare to Toughness. I voted off Toughness and I would not have voted off Improved Toughness.

Am I over thinking this or are we assuming prerequites are not required? To remove Power Attack (as an example) would mean removing all the cleaves and related attack skills.
And is Improved Toughness even in the Players book? Isn't that C War? Thus not part of the equation?

 

[Crothian]

Am I over thinking this or are we assuming prerequites are not required? To remove Power Attack (as an example) would mean removing all the cleaves and related attack skills.
And is Improved Toughness even in the Players book? Isn't that C War? Thus not part of the equation?

you are over thinking it

 

[Rystil Arden]

Am I over thinking this or are we assuming prerequites are not required? To remove Power Attack (as an example) would mean removing all the cleaves and related attack skills.
And is Improved Toughness even in the Players book? Isn't that C War? Thus not part of the equation?

Improved Toughness isn't on the list. That's why I said I would've...Evilhalfling just used Improved Toughness to try to prove that Toughness wasn't such a bad feat

 

[Evilhalfling]

My group had a fighter swordsmith of a similar bent. He was a crafter first, swordsman second and noble landholder third(earned not inherited). He was hurting for skillpoints but he had feats to burn. He also took the old cosmopolitan feat for diplomacy, as haggling is/was based on diplomacy rolls.

 

[Crothian]

Improved Toughness isn't on the list. That's why I said I would've...Evilhalfling just used Improved Toughness to try to prove that Toughness wasn't such a bad feat

well, toughnessis better as long as you never pass level 3

 

[megamania]

Which part?
required feats or locations of feats?

 

[Crothian]

My group had a fighter swordsmith of a similar bent. He was a crafter first, swordsman second and noble landholder third(earned not inherited). He was hurting for skillpoints but he had feats to burn. He also took the old cosmopolitan feat for diplomacy, as haggling is/was based on diplomacy rolls.

my highest score before dwarf attribute mods is intellegence, so I'm okay for skill points. THe sad thing is I made a purposely underpowered fighter...and it is still the most powerful character in the party. But I'm playing with all newbies out of the ghame for many many years

 

[Rystil Arden]

My group had a fighter swordsmith of a similar bent. He was a crafter first, swordsman second and noble landholder third(earned not inherited). He was hurting for skillpoints but he had feats to burn. He also took the old cosmopolitan feat for diplomacy, as haggling is/was based on diplomacy rolls.

Cosmopolitan was awesome! I used Cosmopolitan with my straight Enchantress in 3.0 to qualify for Virtuoso at level 5, losing not a single caster level in wizard but gaining all bard songs and more! I love the bard concept, but bard class is freaking terrible, so this was my compromise