And yeeeeeeeeeeer OUT!

[Felon]

Now, people across the world caught up in turmoil and conflict, can find solace in the realization...


THANK GOD I'M NOT CHARLIE SHEEN!

Let's have a reality check here.

Charlie's gonna be just fine, and he knows it. He may die choking on his own vomit after a night of sloppy coitus with supermodels, high out of his gourd on a cocktail of coke, ectasy, and haldol with a lithium chaser, but I'm not sold 100% on the notion that this is an awful way to go. I mean, if we've figured a way not to go at all, by all means enlighten me, but if the suggestion is that it's better to die with dignity in a hospital room as a cancer-ridden old man whose principal activity during his last few months on this earth was filling up a colostomy bag, you've kind of lost me.

I don't see why any of us should be giving Charlie any grief. From what I've read, he hasn't gone off on any tangents about race and religion. He called AA a cult, which is a long-standing criticism many have leveled (court-mandated AA meetings are a shameless conflict of church and state). He thinks of Chuck Lorre as a hack and a moron, and Chuck has yet to produce any output that would contradict this assessment. Dharma and Greg, Big Bang Theory, and his other sitcoms represent that brand of humor that relies less on wit and more on over-the-top quirky character gags and laughtracks that transmit a Pavlovian signal to the audience when it's time for them to laugh (OK, I admit that Cybil was a guilty pleasure).

Don't we all sit around wishing that more public figures would stop reading public statements written for them by some spin doctor and instead come out and say what's actually on their minds? Don't many of us enjoy morning radio because the hosts of those shows fill this role of "straight-shooter that isn't afraid to ruffle feathers"? We're just not used to actors being unpolished because they're generally so concerned with the marketability of their image.

I'm not saying I'd vote the guy into the oval office...but hell, at least this guy admits he inhaled.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

In all fairness, he IS making Achilles' choice, albeit with drugs & low women as opposed to being a warrior...

Eh...he's a dumbass. Achilles was at least heroic.

 

[Felon]

In all fairness, he IS making Achilles' choice, albeit with drugs & low women as opposed to being a warrior...

Eh...he's a dumbass. Achilles was at least heroic.

Not to threadjack or anything, but Charlie Sheen is much more heroic than Achilles. Both handily fall under the category of "rageaholic", but Charlie Sheen isn't insulated from the consequences of his rage by immersion in the river Styx. How heroic is it for someone who's invulnerable to go around picking fights?

But yeah, he is a dumbass.

 

[jaerdaph]

...low women...[/I]

Where do low women fall on the official table?

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

How heroic is it for someone who's invulnerable to go around picking fights?

Good points...but Achilles was at least in some way a role model. A leader of men. A warrior who taught others how to fight...a virtue within the mores of his culture.

What can we learn from Charlie? How to build up our tolerance for coke if given a fortune to work with? How to score with porn stars?

Actually, for some, that last one might be a valuable lesson.

 

[Herschel]

How is it possible that talented actors like River Phoenix and John Belushi die from drug overdoses but Charlie Sheen lives forever?

Sheen had a "meeting" with Keith Richards one evening and hasn't been able to tan well since.

Just sayin'

Or maybe they're cosmic cockroaches.

 

[John Crichton]

Ugh.

Dude is an entertainer. He's entertaining and very good at it. Unless one of you have been personally harmed by his actions I'm not getting the geek-rage.

 

[Felon]

Good points...but Achilles was at least in some way a role model. A leader of men. A warrior who taught others how to fight...a virtue within the mores of his culture.

What can we learn from Charlie? How to build up our tolerance for coke if given a fortune to work with? How to score with porn stars?

Actually, for some, that last one might be a valuable lesson.

Hehe.

Mores are sketchy things. Achilles displayed a complete lack of discipline on the battlefield, losing himself in fits of rage--a luxury afforded by his invulnerability, which makes him something akin to an overprivileged, spoiled child than a brave leader, IMO. He took the death of his brother Patroclus personally rather than accept it as the risk of being a soldier fighting in a war (as the invading aggressor, no less), chasing down Hector and then defiling his body in an act of petty vindictiveness. Role model? I see little to idolize here, my friend.

The entire Trojan War was the result of nothing more than a couple of guys fighting over a bit of fluff for the amusement of the Olympians. To me, it's a lesson in human folly, not human heroism. But the Greeks had a pretty bizarre set of standards for storytelling. To them, constant and abrupt undermining of human endeavor by divine agencies was a compelling technique.

Charlie is not particularly admirable, but he's not victimizing anyone, and he's not trying to be some half-baked apologist like Mel.

 

[Mark CMG]

How is it possible that talented actors like River Phoenix and John Belushi die from drug overdoses but Charlie Sheen lives forever?

Well-hidden phylactery?

 

[Thunderfoot]

To quote the (sort of) now defunct Bruno the Bandit, Oh my God...You're a FAME VAMPIRE!!!!

Don't need nothing but a camera and a fan base....sad. Really, really sad.
The sadder still part is Emilio Esteves has been hiding out waiting for his brother's "activities" to blow over so he can show his face in Hollywood again. Guess it's time to retire EE.