Another Immortals Handbook thread

[historian]

Hey U_K!

By rights they should be First Ones, but the Marvel iterations seem to suggest that they are notably less than the likes of Eternity, Infinity, Death (and the rarely seen Oblivion), so maybe they are both 'merely' Old Ones.

That's basically what I thought. The MU has several candidates on the First One roster:

Eternity -- Time
Oblivion -- Entropy
Death -- Entropy
Infinity -- Space
Master Order -- Time
Lord Chaos -- Thought
Eon?

Of course, I haven't identified the First One of Good or Evil and I suspect Marvel has intentionally avoided this subject matter. Also, Death and Oblivion might be two aspects of the same being (likely) as they appear to be equally fundamental (perhaps Oblivion is the counterpart to Death in another universe which would explain the infrequent appearances). However, the other overlap involving Eternity and Master Order doesn't quite work as they often appear simultaneously in the same universe and MO is clearly a subordinate. This gives me pause regarding Lord Chaos.

 

[Sledge]

Looks like we'll have to wait a while for the 4th character. It seems the players computer is having some serious hardware issues. UK could you give me a hint of the next step according to the IH?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey U_K!

Hiya mate!

Apologies for being offline for so long (although Friday nights Saturday afternoon are the main times I'm away from the computer). I've been working on a few articles for the website which I'll try to update tomorrow...no its not Galactus historian...not yet, I'm still not confident about the psionics side of things, although I may just do his stats without psionics list.

That's basically what I thought. The MU has several candidates on the First One roster:

Eternity -- Time
Oblivion -- Entropy
Death -- Entropy
Infinity -- Space
Master Order -- Time
Lord Chaos -- Thought
Eon?

Of course, I haven't identified the First One of Good or Evil and I suspect Marvel has intentionally avoided this subject matter. Also, Death and Oblivion might be two aspects of the same being (likely) as they appear to be equally fundamental (perhaps Oblivion is the counterpart to Death in another universe which would explain the infrequent appearances). However, the other overlap involving Eternity and Master Order doesn't quite work as they often appear simultaneously in the same universe and MO is clearly a subordinate. This gives me pause regarding Lord Chaos.

Well Eternity could be good/spirit, Abraxas could be evil/matter?

Or its possible that Lord Order/Master Chaos could be two halfs of 'spirit'*

*Which would be 'soul' in the Marvel Universe.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Sledge mate!

Well I'm still waiting on a couple players, but for Rancellus and Sharynie we have:

Rancellus: War and Honour, LG
Sharynie: Nature and Shadows, NG
Gorman: Knowledge and Power, CG

Can you define 'power' a bit better, its somewhat ambiguous.

Looks like we'll have to wait a while for the 4th character. It seems the players computer is having some serious hardware issues.

Thats okay, no hurry.

UK could you give me a hint of the next step according to the IH?

Well its in three parts (once you have the prerequisites, worship points for one thing):

The Test of Faith (for immortality), the Trial by/of [Insert Portfolio], and the Task(s) of Fealty (for Pantheons...think of the Labours of Hercules).

The Test of Faith is not as obvious as the others, but I don't really want to expound on it right now.

 

[Sledge]

Power as in the pursuit of power. Is that a little more explanatory? I'm not sure how else to put it.

So do those steps need to be taken in order?

You know it would be really nice if we could have the finished book soon.

 

[historian]

Hey U_K!

Apologies for being offline for so long (although Friday nights Saturday afternoon are the main times I'm away from the computer).

Don't sweat it at all (at least not where I'm concerned).

I've been working on a few articles for the website which I'll try to update tomorrow...no its not Galactus historian...

No worries mate, I always enjoy the articles.

I'm still not confident about the psionics side of things, although I may just do his stats without psionics list.

Me neither.

Well Eternity could be good/spirit

You have an idea there as Eternity's essence seems to spring more from the spirit of things rather than time. The only potential problems I see are that he is so often portrayed as rather selfish and infantile, more concerned with form rather than substance.

Abraxas could be evil/matter?

Abraxas is the best candidate to come to mind, although I think his showings are more consistent with a Time Lord that has "gone off the reservation" so to speak, dominated by chaos (primarily) and evil (secondarily). The fact that he was purging every universe of Galactus also seems consistent with Time Lord status (I think?).

It's actually very difficult to find a genuine First One of matter/evil in the MU. Walker, Dormmamu, and Ego are each appealing in their own ways but lack overall. My next best guess would be something that Dr. Strange has encountered.

Or its possible that Lord Order/Master Chaos could be two halfs of 'spirit'*

That definitely makes sense and would give Warlock an IH counterpart. Both halves actually behave as if they are of good alignment.

Maybe the In-Betweener has androgyne powers?

Thanks dude.

 

[Wolv0rine]

Abraxas is the best candidate to come to mind, although I think his showings are more consistent with a Time Lord that has "gone off the reservation" so to speak, dominated by chaos (primarily) and evil (secondarily). The fact that he was purging every universe of Galactus also seems consistent with Time Lord status (I think?).

How can someone purge every universe of Galactus, seeing as how it was shown that the Galactus that exists in the 616 universe is the same Galactus that exists in all the others? Keeping in mind that my comics knowledge (and Marvel knowledge in specific) is a good 10-15 years old.

 

[Anabstercorian]

How long until the next book comes out?

 

[Verequus]

Hi UK!

I think, that this thread http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=146613 might be of interest for you.

 

[historian]

How can someone purge every universe of Galactus, seeing as how it was shown that the Galactus that exists in the 616 universe is the same Galactus that exists in all the others?

I was really pulling from the following:

"He [Abraxas] soon began to cut a swath of terror through various alternate realities, including the murder of other versions of Galactus. He used the head of Galactus to target and home in on the prime reality Earth and to plant a mole in his version of the Herald known as Nova."

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/g/galactus.htm

"With the intention of attracting the attention of the Fantastic Four, Abraxas killed another universe's Galactus, and sent his skull to Earth-616, also using the skull as a homing beacon."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas_%28comics%29

Keeping in mind that my comics knowledge (and Marvel knowledge in specific) is a good 10-15 years old.

Regretfully, I must say that mine pre-dates but I am afraid to give my age away.