[Anti-Hivemind] Revolt!

[Mistwell]

It's not an issue. What the difference to goto page two to veiw 20 new threads verse 19? One has to go to page two anyway.

You know it is an issue, because it forces something to the third page as well, and some people simply won't look beyond the firsyt page. It is an exponential problem. If it were not, then why not have 20 hivemind threads right? I mean, so what if people have to click on the third page, right?

Oh, and having just read most of the current Hivemind thread, I can honestly say ~50% of it is "Hi there [so and so]" posts. This is necessary or appropriate for EnWorld? Why NOT use the chat room for that kind of stuff?

 

[Mistwell]

An issue? You speak as if a Hivemind thread takes up the entire front page. The number of open Hivemind threads is one anyway, only occasionally becoming two during a transition from one thread to another during which, usually, only two or three extra posts are made on the now redundant thread.

After that, the redundant thread drops down the page as the threads are bumped, in the same way any thread that has lost interest does so. In this way Hivemind threads are no different to anyone else.

It is well over 50% of the time that two Hivemind threads are on the front page. It isn't a short transition - you have people posting on old threads for a long time after a new one is started, and each one resets the time it takes for it to scroll of the front page.

All I am asking is that an old Hive thread be officially closed and locked before a new one is started, and if this means you have to live without a Hive thread for a while, then go use the chat room.

 

[Ashwyn]

some people simply won't look beyond the firsyt page.

Then it is their problem.

 

[Crothian]

You know it is an issue, because it forces something to the third page as well, and some people simply won't look beyond the firsyt page. It is an exponential problem. If it were not, then why not have 20 hivemind threads right? I mean, so what if people have to click on the third page, right?

Clicking to the second, third, or even tenth page is not an issue for me; I don't mind doing it. Now if some people refuse to go beyond the first page, then that is their choice.

 

[Mr Fidgit]

You know it is an issue, because it forces something to the third page as well, and some people simply won't look beyond the firsyt page.

how is this our fault?

This is necessary or appropriate for EnWorld?

our rules were set up by the mods. how is that inappropriate?

 

[Mistwell]

Clicking to the second, third, or even tenth page is not an issue for me; I don't mind doing it. Now if some people refuse to go beyond the first page, then that is their choice.

Right. So why not have 20 hive threads? Why not pages and pages of them?

You know you are being disingenuous. You too would prefer only one active hive thread at a time, you just don't want it to be an official policy that the thread be locked before starting a new one, because you would have to go without a Hive thread for a few hours.

 

[Kaiyosama]

You know it is an issue, because it forces something to the third page as well, and some people simply won't look beyond the firsyt page. It is an exponential problem. If it were not, then why not have 20 hivemind threads right? I mean, so what if people have to click on the third page, right?

Oh, and having just read most of the current Hivemind thread, I can honestly say ~50% of it is "Hi there [so and so]" posts. This is necessary or appropriate for EnWorld? Why NOT use the chat room for that kind of stuff?

OMG i feel horible, i move a thread to the 200th page!!!

we don't like chat, because it is harder to communicate with lots of people at once, plus records are kept of our conversations in the forum if anyone wants to look back... forum spans timezones, chat doesn't.

this seems to be getting a bit intense, lets all take a deep breath

 

[Carnifex]

Right. So why not have 20 hive threads? Why not pages and pages of them?

You know you are being disingenuous. You too would prefer only one active hive thread at a time, you just don't want it to be an official policy that the thread be locked before starting a new one, because you would have to go without a Hive thread for a few hours.

Most of the time in my experience, the old thread is abandoned very quickly when a new one has been created. My experience of this seems to simply be different to what you claim. Indeed, I often see the old thread locked pretty quickly anyway.

 

[Kaiyosama]

It is not exagerated. There is almost always two hive threads on the front page. I'm sure others can back me up on this...it's a fact, not something I am imagining.

Second page can't be TOO low in the traffic - it contains posts from TODAY. People who live on the west coast have not even had a chance to see them yet, after getting off of work.

This thread is a protest movement. It got your attention, didn't it? One RPG thread bumped to the second page is a small price to pay for actual attention to the issue. Meta doesn't get many readers...you will get a better discussion here (for now).

hey, i'm west coast!

yes, this should be in meta

no one has time to read all the threads anyway (except maybe the big C)

the community is just to big foreverything in general to fit on teh front page, there are alot of threads in here. comparitvly, hivemind has few threads

 

[Mistwell]

The current active Hive thread started at 09:59 AM.
The prior Hive thread did not stop until 02:21 PM.

Now explain to me how that is only a "short transition" and how it is "rare" for there to be two Hive threads active at the same time.

That simply should not happen! Have your Hive thread - but only one. If you cannot police yourself, it should be policed for you, which means locking the old thread before starting the new one, and waiting for the new one if you have to until the old one is locked (and using the chat forum). It's only the polite thing to do.