anybody play original AD&D anymore:spells

[Silveras]

As far as I can recall, both Judges Guild and Mayfair/Role Aids (company name and brand name) used standard 1st Edition AD&D rules for their products.

The systems and items referenced don't match anything in "basic" D&D (Basic, Expert, Companion, Master, Immortals) either, which was much like AD&D but a little lighter on details.

 

[Grazzt]

hmph..... must have been a special pre-press release for me and my friends....could i have made this next table in my mind

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Still not D&D/AD&D. And I dont believe its from a pre-press release or whatever. Looks like its from something else, like some of the other posters said...Rolemaster perhaps.

I dont believe its Judge's Guild, because they used the standard AD&D 1e stuff (since for a time they had a license or whatever to do so).

Not sure where all that stuff is from you're posting, but it's definitely not D&D.

 

[Grazzt]

I can't speak to the range of "basic/intermediate/etc" D&D that appeared shortly after AD&D1e, because that looked like such a step backwards we never touched it - it was a side branch in the D&D line.

So no, I'm afraid that the things you are talking about do not come from mainstream D&D.

None of the stuff posted above is in any of the basic/expert whatever stuff, PS. And I agree, its not from mainstream D&D/AD&D.

 

[Piratecat]

could i have made this next table in my mind

... each side rolls 3D50

Err - yes? Zander is the person who would know, but I don't believe that 50 sided dice have ever been manufactured. In addition, none of these spells show up on a google search for fan-based material (a shame; they have cool names), and despite a fairly complete library of old games I've never run into that marerial before.

I guess the question is: where are you copying these rules excerpts from? Memory, your own notes, or from a book - and if a book, which book? Where and when did you first hear about them?

 

[Felikeries]

some notes some copier stuff,i have some inetersting ties with the beginings of D&D the information is real,the book itself was not derived as DMG or PM but one book,that also was black covered with D&D written on it

another class.....(there were 5 special classes made before the material was taken away)

MAZI FIGHTER
- +1D20 hp 1to 5 +3D10 6to 10
- after 4th level dungeons etc +1D20 damage,+1D20 hp recovery(potionsetc)
- only plate and chain
- 1 weapon every 4 levels(newly chosen) +1 attack +1D6 damage
- +4 against poisen,disease etc
- +1 1 traite
- enemies with -5 &or +5 or more,(player)when using 4D6 or more original damage weapons or more +&- don't count(note -# on monster stat was how much extra damage didn't count,and +#was how much refurbished hp a damge)
- +100 gp cost village healing
- magic weapons obtained with less than +10dmg may choose +1D20+5
- -5hp extra a round portal use
- no treasure spells

i have nearly every rule and quite a few spells,if any arguement or interest for these stats are anybody's reticue

 

[Plane Sailing]

I wonder if it could have been from the Arduin Grimoire and related books? They had a penchant for tacking D&D and extending it in (often wacky) directions

Cheers

 

[Grazzt]

I wonder if it could have been from the Arduin Grimoire and related books? They had a penchant for tacking D&D and extending it in (often wacky) directions

Cheers

Maybe PS. I dont really remember that stuff, but the Mazi Fighter above is obviously something that didnt appear in D&D (at least not in anything TSR did).

 

[Felikeries]

it used to be before my very eyes,L.A. CA.,before i was a teen.....

10th level wizard
Bantaring blast regents/unknown//range/80ft//extra/2 times a combat//modifier/air elemental
1D6 enemies will iether lose their attack melee,1D8 hp damage,or +4 attack party's next turn,2nd bantaring blast always 2D8 damage

10th level illusionist
Foretelling illusiveness regents/unknown//range/special//extra/1D4 casts a week re-rolled each level//modifier/thief with party lasts 1 day
this spell will reveal 1d4+4 traps on a dungeon level,a coloured light will float next to these traps for 1 round real time

9th level cleric
Defined arcana regents/unknown//range/70ft//extra/1D4 casts a week re-rolled each level//modifier/will not tell level use of spell if 20 wiz or int
taking 2 melee's of player's turn to cast this will allow information of every spell used by non- human enemies

MASS BATTLE
[players army will roll 1D20 at 3D6(+players levels' to +5,enemies # exceeding as army divedid to +5 at most)iether side winning rolls 1 damage for 1D8,1D10,1D12,or 1D20 militia
character avg. level enemies defense extra
1-4 AC+1
5-10 AC+2
11 or higher AC+3
# Encountered
1-3 70
4-6 90
7-9 120
10-12 200
13 or higher 300 or more

[all beasts used in mass battle will have original AC,-1spell,&-1 AC traite & will count for 1/2 exp. of 1 of this type]
1-3 1D4
4-6 1D6
7-10 1D12
11-15 1D10+4
16 or higher 1D12+5

~wizards,illusionists,clerics(etc.)casting spells against enemy spell casters and vise vetrsa will have to use 80ft or more ranged spells,unless direct melee:wiz,ill,clr only classes allowed to use treasure spells

~shield use will allow 1 extra roll for original defense...but will do less damage players' damage roll
1-3 -1D6
4-5 -1D8
6-7 -1D20
8-11 -2D8+3
12 or higher 3D8
~enemies may also use shields

experience table for # killed
1 to 4 =4 11 to 15 =10
5 =2 16 to 25=13
6 =4 27 or more=15
7 to 10 =7

~players fleeing mass battle when enemy has # modifier will not have experience of battle,but will no exp. lostlayers leaving battle when # modifier is theirs will recieve -500 exp. each

regular party combat with their battalion

players on attack +1D8
enemies on attack +1D4
each player does 3(seperate rolls)damages,1D8 versus 1D8(1 roll for seperate dmg. rolls)1/2 dmg. if player wins,1/4 damage if enemy wins
enemies will do 1D6 extra(seperately) 3 dmg. rolls 1 roll for damage

 

[Grazzt]

it used to be before my very eyes,L.A. CA.,before i was a teen.....

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I'm with PirateCat (when he said "where are you copying these rules excerpts from? Memory, your own notes, or from a book - and if a book, which book? Where and when did you first hear about them?")

Nothing still stands out as being from D&D/AD&D.

 

[Thorindale]

What about the The Empire of the the Rose Petal Throne(?) ? I seem to remember that it had a weird combat system.