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AoO Refresher...

Just to be sure, an AoO can provoke another AoO, correct? If I get an AoO and I attack unarmed, then I provoke an AoO, correct? These AoO "chains" can continue back and forth so long as somebody still has AoOs to be made (via Combat Reflexes), but a particular action that provokes an AoO (e.g. attempting a trip) can only provoke one AoO per round, correct?
 

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Ogrork the Mighty said:
... but a particular action that provokes an AoO (e.g. attempting a trip) can only provoke one AoO per round, correct?

It depends what you mean.

A particular trip can only provoke one AoO from a given opponent, but multiple trips (using different attacks) in the same round could provoke multiple AoOs from someone with Combat Reflexes.

I attempt to grapple with my first iterative attack - you get an AoO, you deal damage, you prevent my grapple. I attempt to grapple with my second iterative attack - if you have Combat Reflexes and an AoO remaining, you can hit me again.

The exception is leaving more than one threatened square in a given round, which only counts as one opportunity for a given opponent.

-Hyp.
 

Ogrork the Mighty said:
Just to be sure, an AoO can provoke another AoO, correct? If I get an AoO and I attack unarmed, then I provoke an AoO, correct? These AoO "chains" can continue back and forth so long as somebody still has AoOs to be made (via Combat Reflexes), ...

This is incorrect. You have to be considered armed to be able to make an AoO. If you are considered armed, you do not provoke an AoO. Therefore, no chaining of Attacks of Opportunity.

SRD said:
Attacks of Opportunity

Attacking unarmed provokes an attack of opportunity from the character you attack, provided she is armed. The attack of opportunity comes before your attack. An unarmed attack does not provoke attacks of opportunity from other foes nor does it provoke an attack of opportunity from an unarmed foe.

An unarmed character can’t take attacks of opportunity (but see "Armed" Unarmed Attacks, below).
 

Dracomeander said:
This is incorrect. You have to be considered armed to be able to make an AoO. If you are considered armed, you do not provoke an AoO. Therefore, no chaining of Attacks of Opportunity.
True. But the fact that you're carrying a weapon doesn't require that you use it. Eg., a character with a longsword and no shield threatens an adjacent opponent and would be entitled to any AoO that was provoked; he could, if he chose, use his AoO to make an off-hand unarmed strike, which would itself provoke an AoO ... But you're right, of course, in general-an unarmed character (without the Improved Unarmed Strike feat) does not threaten and therefore is not entitled to AoOs.
 


Christian said:
True. But the fact that you're carrying a weapon doesn't require that you use it. Eg., a character with a longsword and no shield threatens an adjacent opponent and would be entitled to any AoO that was provoked; he could, if he chose, use his AoO to make an off-hand unarmed strike, which would itself provoke an AoO ...
But, you would have to take the two-fighting penalties in order to do that, right?
Ogrork the Mighty said:
Yes, I meant if I was unarmed and the opponent was armed.
Then you don't threaten and wouldn't get an AoO in the first place (unless you have IUS).
 

Hypersmurf said:
It depends what you mean.

A particular trip can only provoke one AoO from a given opponent, but multiple trips (using different attacks) in the same round could provoke multiple AoOs from someone with Combat Reflexes.

I attempt to grapple with my first iterative attack - you get an AoO, you deal damage, you prevent my grapple. I attempt to grapple with my second iterative attack - if you have Combat Reflexes and an AoO remaining, you can hit me again.

The exception is leaving more than one threatened square in a given round, which only counts as one opportunity for a given opponent.

-Hyp.

This just doesn;t seem right to me.

From the DMG

“Moving out of more than one square threatened by the same opponent doesn’t count as more than one opportunity for that opponent”.

Which seems to be the same thing as mutliple attacks to me. The same type of action beign performed repetively during the round.

And another similar one would be an unarmed attack (without the feat). A character with a +6 BAB is entitled to 2 attacks per round so your logic is that for each punch he makes at the character with the sword the sword wielder gets an AoO.

How about a swift spell and a regular spell cast within the same round? Same logic?
 

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