D&D 5E are spells Divine and Arcane anymore?
Because you can't use arcane magic to make the effect.
Arcane or Divine is the method.
Cure Wounds is the effect.
A wizard, warlock, or sorcerer can not manipulate the weave to heal wounds as a spell. The formula requires a divine component or must be distilled into a potion.
Remathilis
Legend
Bards touch the primal Words of Creation. The words of creation repair the damage done. Cure spells.
Clerics get access to magic from the gods. They gods believe a clerics should heal the faithful. Cure spells.
Druids get access via nature. Nature can create as well as destroy. Cure spells.
Paladin and Rangers draw on the same power of clerics and druids. Cure spells.
Sorcerers draw on inborn magic, but can't focus the planar energy needed to touch the positive energy plane. No cures.
Warlocks draw on dark, negative energy unconcerned with such things. No cures.
Wizards study a rigid selection of spells, that like sorcerers can't touch the primal forces of creation (the words, gods, or natural force) so No cures.
Ok
I'm genuinely curious... Has whether a spell itself was arcane or divine come up in anyone's game? I know whether the -caster- draws from arcane or divine sources matters for some 3E prestige classes and stuff, but has it ever been needed to know if that Light spell was divine or arcane? My group runs mostly homebrew stuff so it's never mattered for us beyond character fluff.
Thanks [MENTION=7635]Remathilis[/MENTION], thats about how I look at it too.
[MENTION=6777974]Aribar[/MENTION], well in game there have been several quests for "divine" magic that could do things to resolve the plot, cure disease, raise dead, etc. So in my campaigns there has been the two sides of magic, with some casters hitting the gray area.
Another example was a wizard that could heal, but he had to use life transference or necromancy spells to do it. So he was looked at very suspiciously. Cause ALL the peasants KNOW that healing comes from the gods..."duh" says the peasant.
Out of game, it was likely so that the "roles" wouldn't be infringed upon. In much literature, especially today and in video games, people may specialize but there isn't normally such a divide. In some of the final Fantasy games I created Blaster/Healers.
I agree that there is no longer any rule dividing them as such (other than spell lists). I will likely keep them kinda separate however, much like Remathilis says up thread.
Of course in 5e, my white wizard society will have the magic initiate feat, instead of me arbitrarily putting "cure" spells on their spell list like I did in 1e.
[MENTION=6777974]Aribar[/MENTION], well in game there have been several quests for "divine" magic that could do things to resolve the plot, cure disease, raise dead, etc. So in my campaigns there has been the two sides of magic, with some casters hitting the gray area.
Another example was a wizard that could heal, but he had to use life transference or necromancy spells to do it. So he was looked at very suspiciously. Cause ALL the peasants KNOW that healing comes from the gods..."duh" says the peasant.
Out of game, it was likely so that the "roles" wouldn't be infringed upon. In much literature, especially today and in video games, people may specialize but there isn't normally such a divide. In some of the final Fantasy games I created Blaster/Healers.
I agree that there is no longer any rule dividing them as such (other than spell lists). I will likely keep them kinda separate however, much like Remathilis says up thread.
Of course in 5e, my white wizard society will have the magic initiate feat, instead of me arbitrarily putting "cure" spells on their spell list like I did in 1e.
Arbitrary with a dash of tradition and fluff. Same as any other differences in spell lists among different casters of arcane or divine classes.
HardcoreDandDGirl
First Post
tradition mostly, I really think that an Archivist could be a wizard sub class that pulls from the cleric list.
GMforPowergamers
Legend
I like diffrences when they mean something... but once you take away the meaning it just falls apart.
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