Atlantis: Second Age (The Arcanum of old)

Razuur

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Arcanum – by Bard Games

A game that for many, was better than D&D

I cut my teeth on Basic D&D. I was 13 when I got the red box set, and we poured over it. Soon, that became not enough, and my friends and I combined our meager funds and were able to but the AD&D 1e DMG! That was an excellent book. But, without a PHB, it is very difficult to play. Hence one day when my mother took me to Waldenbooks. She told me I could get a book if I wanted, so I dashed to Walden’s RPG section. It was filled with RPG stuff from many of the 80’s RPG company giants. Most of all was the vast amount of AD&D stuff. Right there before me was the PHB that we so yearned for. I had it in my hand, I was getting ready to turn around in glee when… something caught my eye. A forbidding black book with a large red pentagram on the cover. Above the pentagram were the words “THE ARCANUM”. What was in that book? I had to know. I set the PHB down and took THE ARCANUM off the shelf and read the back…. Almost thirty classes, over 500 spells in seven colleges of magick, new races undreamed of, compatible with other fantasy RPGames… I opened it up, and immediately fell in love. I sat in that corner of Waldens for over an hour before my mom found me. She noted that the book I held was not the PHB I had been babbling about for hours before. “Mom, I want this.” I said. She raised an eyebrow to the pentagram on the cover, and she looked through the book. After a careful perusal, she asked me why I wanted it. I explained about all of the cool new classes, and the all the different types of magical colleges, and… and… She smiled and said… okay! She claims to have not heard another peep out of me during the several hours shopping that followed as my face was buried in the book.

Needless to say, my friends were not all that thrilled that I had bypassed the PHB for The Arcanum… until I opened its cover and told them about all of the classes that they could be. They were in shock! Then I told them about the magicks, and the vile hatred the demons and devils had for one another. I know that we never looked back. We never did buy that 1e PHB. We instead bought the Bard games supplement to arcanum: the Bestiary. We never found the Atlas. Together these products formed the Atlantean trilogy. (Our love for the company did lead us to Talislanta as well! ) The system in Arcanum was similar to 1e in many ways, and we happily used the 1e DMG, Arcanum, and the DnD Rules Cyclopedia together for years. Long after 1e left and when 2e was in its dying days, I picked up the 2e books. We found them so banal and flavorless, we dumped them and returned to our old favorites. 3E changed all of that. The D20 revolution brought vast amounts of flavor and diversity, as well as a serious improvement in mechanics. We were astounded how some of the Arcanum’s concepts seemed to have snuck into 3e. There were a lot of differences, sure, but there were some similarities. Our love for Arcanum never has died. Every campaign, at least one player wants to take one of the Arcanum classes and convert it to 3e. Or someone wants to access some of the flavorful magics and bring them into 3.x.

Now why would I take you, the reader, down this trip thru memory lane? Well… (drum roll) Morrigan Press has gotten the rights to Talislanta, and is on the verge of releasing Talislanta D20 as well as a full line-up of Tal supplements. Details can be found in the Talislanta D20 thread in the publishers forum on this site. In that thread, Scott Agnew, head of Morrigan Press had this to say:

“Rumors eh? Hmm, well some rumors you can believe and others you can't. On this one, all I can say right now is that those in attendance at GTS next week will see a new entry on our In Development for 2005 list... it's called Atlantis: Second Age. I'll leave it at that for now.

Cheers,
Scott Agnew
President, Morrigan Press Inc. “


That is great news, and the people I game with went a little batty at the news. There is no o ETA on the product, bt in the meantime, if you have Arcanum and would like a great guide to converting the existing material to D20 go here:

http://members.aol.com/CountryGrrlHere/dndchick.html

Anyway, I thought I would announce the good news, and open up a thread so that people who have played the original could spout off what they liked about it, what was ahead of it’s time, and what didn’t work so well.

I plan to keep this thread alive until that book hits my sweaty hands….

Razuur
 

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I believe they plan on releasing it using a system based on the one Talislanta uses.

I love the material for that game, especially all the alchemy and magic stuff in the Arcanum book. I've thought about running it using C&C, which would require very little converting.
 

That's cool news, either way. While I never had a magical childhood experience with it (neat story, BTW), I did get it in a used book shop in college and was fairly impressed by it
 

I had the atlantis atlas one and thought it was fun reading, although I never used it as a campaign world. I would have loved to have the arcanum and bestiary.
 

This really IS excellent news! D20 or not, I'd love to see this great system revived. The classes, spells, and tables were all wonderful. I loved this game and played it for years with and without the default Atlantis setting.

And thanks for the nod to my page, too! :)
 

Arcanum

Hey, Erica, did you ever get those Astrology spells I converted up? Or, did you never get them in the first place? Sorry, been rather busy working on C&C stuff to go surfing around much. But, to be on topic-- Arcanum is a beautiful game, jam-packed with tasty tidbits of useful yumminess. I know it's inspired me, on many levels when it comes to roleplaying.Oh... and yeah, it takes like all of nothing to convert to C&C, which for me, is a BANG-O bonus!
 

Excellent.

The bestiary was one of my favorite monster books, and the Lexicon did a lot to fire up my imagination. And characters made using the atlantean system ring nostalgic in my memory. I'm very interested in this.
 

Morrigan

Hey all,

Just wanted to drop in and let you know that we are not ignoring you. Yes, we are working on a new version of the classic Atlantean trilogy from the 80's. Beyond that, I'm afraid it is far to early to go into any details on what will, or will not be in the new game.

That said, please feel free to continue posting about Atlantis and let us know what you hope to find in the new version. We have not yet settled on anything hard and fast so your commnets can still influence what we do with the game. For example, which system to you guys want to see? d20? Tal4 rules? GURPS? Class and levels or skill based? How many books? One big one like Tal4 or a few smaller ones? Etc, etc, etc.

After all is said and done we are hoping to release this game just before xmas if all goes well.

Cheers,
Scott Agnew
www.morriganrpg.com
 

As far as rules, d20 all the way. Perhaps it wasn't the authors intention to provide some alternatives to AD&D 1st ed back when it came out, but that's the way I'm sure a large portion of people used it and even mixed it into their game.

I'd like to see it remain pretty much as it was. One book on the land, one on the mechanics, and another on the monsters.
 

I wouldn't mind it being d20, but with versions of the original classes and spells and all of the great charts and tables from the Arcanum. Those were great!

I did d20 conversions of the races and many of the monsters from the Bestiary, and if you decide to go d20 I'd like to officially submit them to you. You can find them on my website at:

http://members.aol.com/CountryGrrlHere/atlanteand20.html

and

http://members.aol.com/CountryGrrlHere/arcmnstrs.html


If you want to talk, email me at CountryGrrlHere@aol.com.

Thanks for the response!
 

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