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AvP getting ripped to pieces

I recall buying the first dark horse "alien vs predator" comic books back in highschool. This had to be somewhere in 87'-89'. Anyway, the comic series was fantastic. Set on an earth colony. The predators "seeded" the planet with alien eggs. The main character was, as usual for an alien sotry, a gal. She was different from ripley, but still kicked butt.

The comic was great. I had been waiting for this to become a movie for over a decade. What a sad fact that they missed there chance for a great movie and settled for AVP.
 

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Mythtify said:
The comic was great. I had been waiting for this to become a movie for over a decade. What a sad fact that they missed there chance for a great movie and settled for AVP.
You sure that's not nostalgia talkin'? I haven't read the comic, but I did read the novelization by Steve Perry (not of Journey fame.) It's pretty mediocre, at best. Meanwhile, the movie is actually a lot of fun.
 

Mark Chance said:
But, all of that aside, since when does every movie have to be a "good" movie? Isn't enough that a movie simply be entertaining? This is AvP, after all. It's not some independent film written by a "deep thinker" who took one or two philosophy classes at film school, and has now decided to teach us all of an important "lesson" about the way life really is.

And I thank God for that.

Mark, you misinterpreted my little rant from last night. I wasn't saying that movies need to be good. I was accusing movie-goers of being foolish. If you think a movie looks so bad that the only way you can bring yourself to go is if you don't have any expectations of quality, then don't go. If you really do think something will not entertain you, don't subject yourself to seeing it.

What I said doesn't apply to you, probably. Most of the time, I'm sure, you enjoy movies that you go see. Hell, I'm not a movie snob thinking that everything has to be a 'film,' or that movies must be Oscar quality. I like entertainment. If a person thinks AVP will entertain him, he should go see it.

The mistake that I feel many movie-goers are making is in passively accepting something they're dissatisfied with. The specific opinion a person has is not what I'm arguing about. I'm simply saying that going to see a movie that you cannot muster up some excitement over is like voting for a candidate you don't want in office. You're better of voting for someone else, or even just not voting at all. It's better than supporting something you don't believe in.

I do, coincidentally, also think that some movies are just bad, for no good reason. Once Upon a Time in Mexico (billed in the credits as "a Robert Roderiguez Flick") was a great fun movie. It was not serious or deeply meaningful. It was just cool. Shanghai Noon wasn't a 'film,' it was a comedy, and an entertaining one. Big Trouble in Little China was just pure pulpy fun. I loved them all. But then there are things like the new Star Wars movies, that just fall flat. You'd think that with as many people working on them as there are, someone would be able to make them have better quality.

Eh, anyway. Fun movies are fun. Kids movies are fun. Disney movies are fun. Bad movies aren't fun.

Unless they're atrocious. Then they're great!
 

Joshua Dyal said:
You sure that's not nostalgia talkin'? I haven't read the comic, but I did read the novelization by Steve Perry (not of Journey fame.) It's pretty mediocre, at best. Meanwhile, the movie is actually a lot of fun.
I read the comics back in the day. They were actually some of the best for their time. We're talking high production values - excellent art, glossy pages, etc. The story was pretty good too. Nevertheless, its a story I'm familiar with. I don't fault them at all for wanting to do something new with it.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
I'll be buying the DVD. I just got back from the theater, and thought this was a pretty fun movie.
My wife and I watched it Saturday night and quite enjoyed it. My expectations going in were simple - a fun action flick with two of my favorite movie monsters. I was not disappointed in the least and I too will be purchasing the DVD.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
They don't owe you much for $7. I can barely feed myself at Taco Bell for $7.

OK let's clarify, $7 for the movie (matinee), drink and popcorn take me into the realm more close to $15. Sure, it's not a hell of a lot of money, but I can buy a DVD for that and watch a movie many times. Actually, if I watch prices, I can certainly get a DVD, soda (2 liters if I like) and a bag of nukable popcorn for that $15. If I didn't do matinee, I would be more in the realm of $17, and a couple of bucks realy opens up the DVD market. My home system may not be a threatre, but I do have a very good surround system and a HD monitor.

To accept that someone can produce shlock, because you don't think it's much money seems odd to me. It's not like they charge less for crappy movies.

I have become careful about movie selection owing the the profusion of bad movies out there. I'll save my dollars. They do, after all, add up after a while.

buzzard
 

I do hold that if a movie isn't equal in caliber to the LOTR trilogy, then it might as well not be made at all. There is no excuse for crap filmmaking.
 

Corinth said:
I do hold that if a movie isn't equal in caliber to the LOTR trilogy, then it might as well not be made at all. There is no excuse for crap filmmaking.
Now that is the exact attitude that Whisperfoot was talking about in his posts.

Back to the subject of this thread, I'll probably be buying AvP when it comes out on DVD. I enjoyed it enough that I consider it worth purchasing.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
They don't owe you much for $7. I can barely feed myself at Taco Bell for $7.


We can't think of it as our measley $7. Actually, if my wife and I go to a movie during peak hours we almost spend $30. Anywho, we have to think of it as the millions of dollars the actors, writers and directors take home. They supposedly earn that money for their great talent at entertaining the masses. I just don't see that many great films that really demand that kind of pay. There are some, but not the majority.
 

Saw it and didn't take it was that bad. Not enough Alien vs Predator action though, and the PG-13 rating means no gore.
I liked the fight b/w the Alien Queen and the Predator at the remnants of the whaling station, amongst the remainder of whalebone. Surreal.

Other than that, I agree that the setup is horribly contrived and takes up too much time. I want my Alien on Predator action NOWWWWWW! ;)
 

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