Barbarians in Medium Armor (WAS: Jennifer Lopez And Tom Cruise Nude!!!!!!!)

[Joker]

Well, I had to get your attention somehow .

I have a really short question that, I hope, has not been asked yet.

What's the speed of a barbarian in a medium armor?

I would assume it's 30ft but I can't be sure as there is no official ruling in the Phb, I think.

Thanks in advance. And sorry about the false advertising of naked people, I won't do it again. Much.

Tata.

edit - sorry to spoil your fun Joker, but some folks get a might peeved at faker titles.
Henry

 

[Arnix]

It would be 30 feet, since barbarians abilities only work in light or no armor.

 

[Joker]

Unless it's been errated (which is quite possible as I'm can't be bothered to read those things) it say in the Phb that it still works with medium armor.

 

[Darklone]

Yes it's 30ft. There is a list for monsters in armour somewhere that shows it. MM?

 

[Christian]

There are two theories about the effect of the barbarian's bonus speed in medium armor: a) the 10' bonus applies to the base move, then the armor speed penalty is applied, and b) the 10' bonus applies to the adjusted move rate when the barbarian is in medium armor. Fortunately, both of these methods give a result of 30' for characters with a normal move of 30'. (I.e. all of the medium size PH races except for dwarves.) Unfortunately, these methods give adjusted movement rates of 20' and 25', respectively, for dwarven and small-sized barbarians. My answer is 20', but there's a very good case for the other ... AFAIK, there's never been a definitive ruling, but it makes for a fun argument.

 

[mkletch]

A Barbarian loses his/her speed bump if in heavy armor OR if carrying a heavy load. Important to remember the latter.

-Fletch!

 

[mkletch]

There are two theories about the effect of the barbarian's bonus speed in medium armor

But there is only one line of text in the PHB:

From the PHB, p.25
The barbarian has a speed faster than the norm for his race by +10 feet ...

That means base speed, since races do not have encumbrance or armor. A Barb with an increased base speed of 40ft. (medium creature except dwarf), in medium armor or with medium load, would have a speed of 25ft. Small or dwarf would be 20ft.

How do barbarian and monk speed increases stack? Would the 'supernatural speed' breakpoint still be 9th level, or 60ft speed? Don't know.

-Fletch!

 

[Christian]

I agree with your interp of the rule, Fletch-but not your numbers. A (say) human barbarian will have a base speed of 40', and an encumbered/armored speed of 30'. That's the encumbered speed of a character/creature with a base speed of 40' (see the D&D FAQ, or reverse-engineer the overland movement rates in the PH) ... And, as I stated, this is the same if you wait to apply the +10' to the speed after the armor penalty is applied, in this case. It only matters for (say) a dwarven barbarian. Under our reading of the rule, this character's base speed is raised to 30', so his encumbered speed is 20' (standard encumbered speed for a character with a 30' base move). Some folks, especially those who are playing dwarven barbarians, think the 10' bonus should be applied to his 15' encumbered speed, giving a total move of 25' ...

 

[kreynolds]

Re: Jennifer Lopez And Tom Cruise Nude!!!!!!!

What's the speed of a barbarian in a medium armor?

His speed is cut by a third. Divide the base speed by 3, multiply the result by 2, then round that result up to the nearest 5 (40 / 3 = 13.33 x 2 = 26.66 {round up} = 30)

I'm more in agreement with mkletch.

EDIT: Damnit. That's twice I've done that...argh. Anyways, make sure your round up, not down.

 

[JChung2003]

Fast Movement: The barbarian has a speed faster than the norm for his race by +10 feet when wearing no armor, light armor, or medium armor (and not carrying a heavy load).

The way that I interpreted the rule was to apply the Fast Movement +10 feet modifier after the speed was determined, i.e., after looking up speed in the Armor table and then looking up speed in the Carrying Loads table.

human barbarian (base 30') with no armor and light load = 40'
...with medium load = 30' (20+10)
...with medium armor = 30' (20+10)
...with medium armor and medium load = 25' (15+10)

dwarf barbarian (base 20') with no armor and light load = 30'
...with medium load = 25' (15+10)
...with medium armor = 25' (15+10)
...with medium armor and medium load = 20' (10*+10)

If the barbarian were wearing heavy armor or bearing a heavy load, Fast Movement would no longer be in effect.

*Unfortunately, there is no entry in SRD for what the speed would be for someone with 15' speed wearing medium armor or carrying a medium load. I made a house rule to set it to 10'. Is there one in the Monster Manual?