Best of the Best - Strikers.

Which of these is the best striker?

  • Ranger - Archer

    Votes: 46 22.0%
  • Ranger - Two-blade

    Votes: 35 16.7%
  • Ranger - Beastmaster

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Rogue - Artful

    Votes: 15 7.2%
  • Rogue - Brutal

    Votes: 17 8.1%
  • Rogue - Ruthless

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Warlock - Dark

    Votes: 4 1.9%
  • Warlock - Fey

    Votes: 3 1.4%
  • Warlock - Star

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Warlock - Infernal

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Warlock - Vestige

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Avenger - Isolating

    Votes: 4 1.9%
  • Avenger - Pursuing

    Votes: 10 4.8%
  • Avenger - Commanding

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Barbarian - Rageblood

    Votes: 18 8.6%
  • Barbarian - Thaneborn

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Sorcerer - Cosmic

    Votes: 3 1.4%
  • Sorcerer - Dragon

    Votes: 11 5.3%
  • Sorcerer - Storm

    Votes: 13 6.2%
  • Sorcerer - Wild

    Votes: 19 9.1%
  • Monk - Centered

    Votes: 3 1.4%

I would have voted for the feycharger but that wasn't an option.
The highest DPR I've seen was from the sorcerer feycharger coming in at 460 DPR. Yes that's DPR not nova damage. Some flavors I like are swapping out hybrid swordmage for hybrid ranger and doing MC swordmage so I can use spitting cobra stance with dragonfrost. Using dragonfrost as often as spitting cobra stance grants and using arcane admixture to get echoes of thunder that dragonfrost gets up to some insane damage. Another variation on the sorcerer feychargerer is MC rogue for daggermaster for a lovely crit range. My favorite is currently the divine feycharger for his amazing AC and not having to get reaper's touch while still getting 430 DPR, the 18-20 crit range and great constant damage due to radiant vulnerability and echoes of thunder. Funny that this striker is based on 3 defender classes(paladin, swordmage, fighter) and the lowest damaging striker(warlock).
Paladin | swordmage MC fighter, warlock / student of ciaphon / sage of ages.
 
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I would have voted for the feycharger but that wasn't an option.
The highest DPR I've seen was from the sorcerer feycharger coming in at 460 DPR. Yes that's DPR not nova damage. My favorite is currently the divine feycharger for his amazing AC and not having to get reaper's touch while still getting 430 DPR, the 18-20 crit range and great constant damage due to radiant vulnerability and echoes of thunder. Funny that this striker is based on 3 defender classes(paladin, swordmage, fighter) and the lowest damaging striker(warlock).
Paladin | swordmage MC fighter, warlock / student of ciaphon / sage of ages.

That sounds fun because of the mix... I do like reapers touch though... call it my conjurers blade. You have me curious about what each class brings to the table...
 

Would you like me to summarize how each class brings a different twist to the feycharger? I don't feel this is detracting from the theme of the thread.
 

1 pt per minion... Our DM barely uses minions as they really do not contribute anything to the fights... he runs almost like a 3rd edition game, real mobs everytime

A few minor changes to minions (bloodiable = healable and intimidateable) have made them a solid addition to any fight for me.. but I have a low player count and don't make which bad guys are minions so obvious... mix in ally minions and you can have quite a body count.

Picture a demon portal we are struggling to close while waves of evils sometimes minions sometimes not come out.
 

This one to me really depends on how you define best. If I go with the role definition, high mobility and increadible damage....then imo the archer ranger is so far ahead its not even funny.

I've seen warlocks, sorcerors, avengers, and barbarians along with an archer ranger....and right now the archer ranger is way ahead.

But I think he is way more boring than the other classes. It is very easy in open terrain to be untargetable. You just put down your quarry, and pump arrows into badguys for massive damage. Rinse, repeat.
 

Would you like me to summarize how each class brings a different twist to the feycharger? I don't feel this is detracting from the theme of the thread.

I would.. but I tend to meander a little on occasion. The definition of best class/build for striker means if you have another defining it makes some sense.
 

For me a striker is defined as a mindset and effectiveness at taking out monsters.

Base fey charger standard stuff:
Eladrin
Belongs to the swordmage class to get eladrin swordmage advance
belongs to the fighter class to get fey charge so he can use his feystep to replace a charge's movement, thus triggereing eladrin swordmage advance
have some at-will power(magic missile, dragonfrost, Virtous strike) that you pile stuff(echoes of thunder, white lotus master riposte) on that can be used as a melee basic attack, typically with reaper's touch(opens up wizard, warlock, sorcerer, invoker as good candidates)
-typically this is an arcane power so you can use white lotus master riposte + aegis of assault for a practically guaranteed extra attack, Arcane admixture(thunder) + echoes of thunder as echoes have exponentially growing damage bonus with the number of attacks (4-5 usually for most fey chargers)
Dancing sword(level 20 light/heavy blade) to get an extra MBA(your power) each round for encounter as a daily power
Often feychargers use windrise ports background(take 2 multi classes) to fit in all the classes they need
Most feychargers go sage of ages for the floating d20 and the possibility for encounter long attack bonus to help the feycharge suceed so as to not loose it.
Most feychargers that have an arcane MBA usually get 300+ DPR

Base fey charger
Wizard | swordmage MC fighter
-Uses wizard's fury and salve of power until epic where dancing sword takes over. You still get the attack wizard's fury gave you for the same action requirement but doesn't use a healing surge to refresh. Wizard's fury is great in heroic and awesome in paragon then obsolete in epic. With a battle harness and tons of orbs of judicious conjuration(level 3 is fine) he can sustain the power for free giving him that extra minor action.
-Only needs one attribute to be good.
-I like to go int/wis and go hybrid talent(orb of imposition) and take blood mage for a great versatile defender/controler/striker

Sorcerer | ranger MC swordmage, fighter / Academy master / sage of ages
-Frostcheesed dragonfrost + arcane admixture(thunder) + echoes of thunder
-Spitting cobra stance to throw those dragonfrosts everywhere even pushing them for control
-Heroic tier can be based on best striker: the ranger then shift to sorcerer in paragon when white lotus master riposte + arcane admixture + fey charge kick in

Sorcerer | swordmage MC rogue, fighter / Daggermaster / sage of ages
-18-20 crit range + bloodiron dagger + 3 attacks / round = ouchie

Paladin(cha) | swordmage MC fighter, warlock / student of ciaphon / sage of ages
-Virtous strike + arcane domain = candidate for arcane admixture and thus echoes of thunder
-Arcane domain has stacking +1 to attack till end of next turn, this combined with AV2's Barrage Bracers doing the same thing, both being untyped.
-White lotus master riposte + aegis of assault still works.
-2 ways to mark(aegis + divine challenge)
-Hybrid talent(paladin armor prof) means we start at level 1 with plate prof w/ no requirement on str, con.
-Font of radiance + punishing radiance(DP) + 18-20 crit range + virtuous strike(radiant) + symbol of divine light(AV2)(increase radiant vulnerability by 5)
 
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Paladin(cha) | swordmage MC fighter, warlock / student of ciaphon / sage of ages
-Virtous strike + arcane domain = candidate for arcane admixture and thus echoes of thunder
-Arcane domain has stacking +1 to attack till end of next when you hit, this combined with AV2's Barrage Bracers doing the same thing, both being untyped.
-Hybrid talent(paladin armor prof) means we start at level 1 with plate prof w/ no requirement on str, con.

That brings up how with all the hybriding and mc'ing do you deal with MAAD effects.
 

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