Best...Puzzle...Ever....

Riddle #3

"Riddle #3: Eddie and Aaron are dead in a cabin in the woods. It's over 500 miles to the nearest living being, and no on else was here when they died. If they didn't kill each other and didn't die from natural causes, nor other animals, what killed them?"

Was the cabin actually the cabin of an airplane? If so, then I'd say the fall killed them.

-Scot
 

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prisoner solution

tbitonti said:
Does anyone know a non-iterative way to solve this using elementary
functions (or even using Fibonacci numbers, or a base 2 representation
and a summation)?

Sure. Here's a solution involving binary representation, although at the end I'll turn the final answer into a straight arithmetic formula.

First time through, you're knocking out all the odd numbers, i.e. those ending in 1. Once you've done that, since everything left ends in 0, you can erase the final zero to prepare for the next round. So when you're ready to start round 2, you've renumbered your round-1 survivors from 1-500, although the prisoner now numbered k used to be numbered 2k.

Since 1000 is even, the last prisoner survives the first round. That means the second round proceeds the same as the first round, with the first prisoner in line, and all who now have odd numbers (second bit from the right is 1) getting killed and those whose second bit from the right is 0 surviving.

Likewise, since 1000 has 0 for its second and third rightmost bits, the third and fourth rounds will eliminate those whose third and fourth bits respectively are 1.

But the third round will leave 125 prisoners, number 1-125 (after their three trailing 0's have been erased. This is odd, so the fourth round will kill the last prisoner. That means that the fifth round will begin by sparing the first prisoner, and continue by killing the even numbers and sparing the odd numbers.

Notice the key property of 1000: its fourth-smallest bit, which becomes the smallest bit on the fourth round, is a 1. That tells you that on the fifth round its the numbers with 1 for their now-smallest (originally fifth-smallest) bit that get spared.

You see the pattern: whatever bit (0 or 1) 1000 has in any given place, survivors must have the same bit in the next place to the left. In other words, the final survivor must look like the original number of prisoners (in this case 1000), shifted one bit to the left, with the leading one erased (so that the number isn't bigger than 1000).

Now shifting the whole number one place to the left with a trailing 0 is equivalent to multiplying by 2. Erasing the leading 1 is subtracting the highest power of two smaller than the now-doubled number, or equivalently the smallest power of 2 larger than the original number.

So, if you have n prisoners, the survivor is 2n-p, where p is the next power of 2 after n. In this case, 2x1000-1024-976.

And when you write

tbitonti said:
Note that 976 == 1024 - 48 == 1024 - 32 - 16,

you miss the more interesting breakdown: 976=1024-24-24, the 24 being relevant because 1000=1024-24.
 

Fieari said:
In fact, the drummer is under the curse, and the bear is the paladin. The drummer, wanting to let you guys know the truth but unable to do so, phrases his first statement in a way that the curse allows...

"I can tell you that you must take the road to the town of Tabor" which is a lie, because he CAN'T say that.

...and the paladin, honestly and trying to let you know the drummer is the liar, says, "You say no such thing" because such a statement would be a truth, and the drummer is cursed and cannot speak the truth.

As such, the answer is to take the road to Tabor, go to the Castle of Arc, and find the cook there.

Anyone up for finding out where
the cook
is going to tell them to go, so they don't have to bother going all the way to
the Castle of Arc
?

See Fieari - you spoilt a perfectly good logic puzzle by having
the bear say precisely the WRONG thing. The bear should have said "you'll say no such thing", or even nothing at all. Unfortunately what you end up having him say is certainly not a truth. This is a logic puzzle - you have to be very exact in your language.
 

Tilla the Hun (work) said:
Right...

I'll jump in with an old riddle (but still quite good) or two, then a comment on the levers question from Merak


Riddle#1: Picture a bedroom with two beds, two dressers, two of everything, even two young girls fish bowls. Speaking of young girls, Sally and Jane lay dead on the beds. Both died of drowning, yet there are no marks of struggle, and the beds are quite dry. How did they die??
A druid or cleric or what have you cast 'drown' on them.
Riddle#2: John was found hanging 5 feet off the floor from a rope tied around the rafters of a 20 foot high ceiling in a concrete floored warehouse. There's a large spreading pool of water below him. He's quite dead, and there's quite literally nothing else in the warehouse. How did he die?
An ogre hung him.
Riddle #3: Eddie and Aaron are dead in a cabin in the woods. It's over 500 miles to the nearest living being, and no on else was here when they died. If they didn't kill each other and didn't die from natural causes, nor other animals, what killed them?
Someone cast 'nightmare' at them and they were both peasants.


Sorry dude, but we ARE talking about D&D here.
 

Tilla the Hun (work) said:
Right...
Riddle#2: John was found hanging 5 feet off the floor from a rope tied around the rafters of a 20 foot high ceiling in a concrete floored warehouse. There's a large spreading pool of water below him. He's quite dead, and there's quite literally nothing else in the warehouse. How did he die?

Easy, he suffocated, as "there's quite literally nothing else in the warehouse"
 

Pielorinho said:
Die_Kluge, try my spoilered variation of the riddle; it's got the same answer, I'll wager, as the first one.

Here's another fun riddle. Although there are multiple answers, you're looking for the most elegant one.

Since his wife is on a business trip, Michael is staying at a friend's house, a beautiful old mansion. His friends give him the room with the gas fireplace. He's a little paranoid, so he locks the door and the windows of the room.

Next morning he doesn't come down for breakfast, so they bust down the door of the room to find him dead inside, the room filled with natural gas fumes. An inquisition finds that he died because the fire went out sometime during the night, and rule it accidental death.

Two weeks later, his wife having successfully got away with murder, she takes the insurance settlement to Tahiti and starts a new life with her boyfriend.

How did she kill her husband?

Daniel
She's a druid, and she cast quench on the room (assuming that you're allowed to cast spells through clear surfaces)

Alternately, and assuming that the puzzle is set in the real world
she turned the gas to the building off during the night, then turned it back on again
 

Another riddle

Pielorinho said:
Scot's got it! That is, of course, also the answer to my spoilered version. Good job!
Daniel

Thanks. I'll return the riddle with another riddle. This one can be dropped in a D&D game without too many changes...

Two rats are wandering through the woods when they come upon a puddle of water. They stop and look in the puddle and jump back in surprise when they see their reflection.

"Wow" says the first rat "Can you imagine what life would be like if we could become our reflection?!?"

"Before we scavenged for food, we could look down over the entire farm and see if the old farm dog was out that night!" replied the second.

"And if the farmer came out, we'd be too far away to shoot" continued the first.

"We wouldn't even have to worry about them stumbling upon us during the day." finished the second.

So, the rats started jumping up and down in the puddle, trying to become their reflection. No matter how much they splashed around though, they just couldn't do it. So, they gave up and wandered off dejected. However, the splashing had attracted a number of other animals. They had watched the rats acting crazy and were a little worried about what might be wrong with the water. But curiosity got the best of them and one by one the animals wandered over and looked in the water. A fox, a bear and even a wise owl all looked into the pool, but none of them saw anything that made sense, so they each wandered off just shaking their heads in confusion.

Finally, the old dog from the farm, who had been watching everything, wandered up to the puddle and looked at his reflection. When he did, he let out a little laugh and thought, "It's a good thing for them that animals can't become their reflections. Because rats that had become their reflection would be no match for a dog that had become his."

So, after hearing this story, the question is: what did the rats see when they looked at their reflection?

-Scot
 

ScotMart2000 said:
<snip>

So, after hearing this story, the question is: what did the rats see when they looked at their reflection?

-Scot
Flying Rats!?

This is really only a guess, with my reasoning being:
- the fox is too smart to be fooled by its reflection
- the bear too big to see more than just his face
- the owl can already fly.

I guess the dog also sees sky behind him, so thinks that he too can fly

Mind you, I dunno if that's the answer you were looking for.


D.
 


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