D&D 5E Better Leonin

[Xenonnonex]

BETTER LEONIN
Ability Scores: Cha +2, Str +1
Other racial features remain.
Claws: Slashing damage equal to 1d6 + your Strength modifier.

BEST LEONIN
Ability Scores: Cha +1, Str +1, Wis +1
Other racial features remain.
Claws: Slashing damage equal to 1d4 + your Strength modifier.

 

[cbwjm]

I dunno, I think I prefer the Theros version better.

 

[PsyzhranV2]

Why Cha

Str and Cha together throws them in the Paladin pigeonhole, one of things people complain about re: vanilla dragonborn.

 

[Xenonnonex]

I dunno, I think I prefer the Theros version better.

Okay. Great.

 

[Fenris-77]

LEONIN
Ability Scores: Cha +2, Str +1
Other racial features remain.
Claws: Slashing damage equal to 1d6 + your Strength modifier.

Would you mind expanding on why this is better? I'm curious. I haven't read the book yet, so I don't know what you're changing it from, or what you don't like about the one in the book.

 

[Xenonnonex]

Why Cha

Str and Cha together throws them in the Paladin pigeonhole, one of things people complain about re: vanilla dragonborn.

Lions symbolize dominating traits. As king of beasts they symbolize leadership and authority. A group of them are known as a pride.

 

[Xenonnonex]

Would you mind expanding on why this is better? I'm curious. I haven't read the book yet, so I don't know what you're changing it from, or what you don't like about the one in the book.

Best to read the book. The book is still good. Despite a few brainfarts.
They were another Con and Str race. I felt it more appropriate for the lion race to be Cha and Str. What the lion symbolizes went into the change.
Their claws were too weak.

 

[Fenris-77]

There are a lot of STR/CON races, that's for sure. Even using the one from the book as well, yours could be a leader-type subrace or some such. It doesn't look OP or anything. Don't hate me, but the first thought I has was that it looked like a great candidate to make a Bard grappler out of. No need for a wrestling costume, its built right in.

 

[Xenonnonex]

There are a lot of STR/CON races, that's for sure. Even using the one from the book as well, yours could be a leader-type subrace or some such. It doesn't look OP or anything. Don't hate me, but the first thought I has was that it looked like a great candidate to make a Bard grappler out of. No need for a wrestling costume, its built right in.

The wrestling eloquence bard named King. Or the valor bard named King. Or named for other royal titles. Ready to goddamn create his own legend. \m/

 

[Charlaquin]

They were another Con and Str race.

Ugh, really?

+2 Str, +1 Con really is the Fire/Fighting of D&D.