Blindness/ Alternate Shape or Polymorph what have you

Sylrae

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If a Polymorphed character goes blind permanently, but then changes shape, does the blindness go away? My thought is yes because they are changing to a new body. I would assume the same for dismembered limbs and scars and such. What are your opinions/ the official ruling on this?
 

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As a DM?

Depends on the cause.

If the blindness is caused by physical deformity (e.g., torturer plucked out his eyes) then Polymorph magic should bring it back for the duration.

If it's caused by a long duration spell effect (such as Blindness/Deafness) then the subject still can't see until it's cured, regardless of form (although gaining Blindsight can make it meaningless).
 


Say the blindness occurred while polymorphed. Does changing back fix the eyes?

What if it's from the nymph's permanent blind effect.

and Isn't blinsight short range, making it not useful to flying characters/ranged/casters?
 

Sylrae said:
Say the blindness occurred while polymorphed. Does changing back fix the eyes?
That one's easy - changing back doesn't heal you of gashes and things; whether physically caused or magically caused, blindness taken in an alternate form remains.

For that matter, you could use the same thing to say that polymorphing into a form with undamaged eyes doesn't let the person who's eyes were removed by a torturer see - the polymorph only heals you as though you had rested for a night. Hmm....
Sylrae said:
What if it's from the nymph's permanent blind effect.
Close enough to a spell effect that it doesn't matter too much - besides, it's "as though by the blindness spell" - any ruling specific to the spell "Blindness/Deafness" also covers the Nymph's Blinding Beauty by way of inheritance.
Sylrae said:
and Isn't blinsight short range, making it not useful to flying characters/ranged/casters?
Outside, sure. In a dungeon environment, though, you'll rarely have the ability to see beyond sixty feet anyway.
 

This DM is getting on my nerves. I don't personally think he's very good. We've played 8 sessions and I'm on my fourth character - who is now blind unless I can get the blindness removed. I'm a flying spellcaster, and it's a campaign thats not in dungeons at all. We're in big suburban areas. He put anti-magic zones all over the place, and everything. When you die you come back at the same level you were when you died. I've died the LEAST at 3 deaths! and I've only missed 2 sessions (for a total of like 10). In his games it's common for a player to go through 2 characters in a session.

I'm an incubus sorcerer level 7 (using incubus savage progressions so I only have 2hd of incubus so far) and I have +40 to jump withthe cap removed due to magic items, and I get blind because the bumbling anti-paladin got a free surprise round on me even though he came at me head on from like 40 feet away, (so the dm rules rules I dont have time to make my 20-35 foot jump from a standstill - How long does it take to jump, honestly!) and then his NYMPH NPC Blinds us both. He's slaughtered by town guards or something and I'm stuck blind. I'm not sure whether it's more because half the PCs are retarded or because the DM has no idea how to run a game that doesn't suck, I'm thinking maybe its both.

Worst of all - there's nobody else around for me to game with at the moment... :(

Damn it all.
 
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I missed the session after going blind. I guess I'm more peeved at HOW I got blind than the fact that I did. I thought about Open RPG, but I'd much rather play with REAL people.

I can't do forums because Dice aren't on the forums and you can't tell that everyone isnt just claiming to make nigh invincible rolls. I've seen some online games, and unless its in a system like open rpg where rulesets are possible, its like whoever types fastest wins the combat, or they are drawn out like 1 session over a month. Neither idea appeal to me.

Maybe if I start a new campaign as dm I can have something more enjoyable. I'd like a chance to actually PLAY in a game that is fun (which I almost never get to do here in Southwestern Ontario - I have to run the campaign for it to be any good it seems).

It's not that there's alot of combat in this game, it's a combination of players acting like idiots, and the DM having incredibly bad things happen to players for no conceivable reason. And this occurs on a regular basis. Reflex saves are meaningless, because he dishes out so much damage from random things at once, that if you make your save for half, you still need to have a d10 hit dice to have more than -10 hit points when youre hit.

Someone threw an alchemist fire flask into a coal mine, for example. He ruled that the fumes from the coal are flammable (They are, but not when that diluted), and he had an entire mountain blow up on us. We saw the guy throw the flask, and even though we were 30 feet away from him when he threw it (30 feet AWAY from the mine, and he threw it another 20 feet into the mine), we didn't even get an action before he ruled the entire mountain exploded and fell on us. Reflex for half (this was our level 5 characters). Half damage was like 56 damage or soemthing retarded. The fighter lived because he made his stability check and came back from -8.

If someone who is running a serious D&D game in the london ontario area, and can use another playr, let me know. Otherwise I'm going back to DMing because nobody I know seems to have the competence to run a game. :\

Come to think about it, I'm not that picky. I like white wolf too, I like FR, I like Spelljammer, Planescape, most types of homebrew, I'll try to learn 2nd if thats whats around. I'm so desperate I'll play the healing cleric in an eberron game (Some of the few things I hate is Eberron and playing healing clerics - healing clerics just aren't fun, and I'm not sure why I dont like eberron, I just don't).

Note: I'm not being really picky here, I just want some amount of seriousness, and I dont want to feel like the DM is just victimizing the players the entire game. If a character owned by the same player dies more than once in like 20 sessions, without them acting like an idiot and doing something to deserve it, then it just doesn't seem reasonable to me. I don't know. I'm just fed up with this GM's ridiculousness, and the GM in the other town i was in - whose games had no plot they were just combat, which is ok I guess, just not my thing. I want to find a dm who dms similar to me. with a plot, and some combat sometimes, and dialogue, and maybe a puzzle occasionally, and maybe even characters who last long enough to have character development.

I don't mind good campaigns, evil campaigns, low magic, steampunk, etc. It's all good, but I usually don't want to play d20 modern. If I want to play a modern game I usually use oWoD rules, just because thye make more sense to me when youre only going to have one race.
 
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Ah, so the problem isn't so much the blindness itself, but that from your perspective your DM is breaking rule -1 "Don't be an idiot" (not the original, but the original isn't suitable for many content filters, so I don't bother typing that out).

As for online games, yeah, in-person is (normally) much better.

As for the die-roll issue - well, the forums I mentioned as "elsewhere" actually have support for die rolls - typing out [roll]1d20+3[/roll] will cause a random number between 1 and 20 to have a 3 added, and be displayed in the post, in such a way that you can quote it to see that it was the forum roller (number goes away, to be replaced with [roll0], [roll1], [roll2] and so on) and that you can't actually edit them out (when you edit, they're [roll0], [roll1], [roll2] and so on).
 
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