D&D (2024) D&D 2024 PHB errata thread +

[TerraDave]

There is no errata for dual wielding, and it is unlikely we’ll get any. (It’s more likely Jeremy will give us some sage advice clarifying his intent.) EDIT: There are, however, numerous other threads, including the one I linked above, for discussing the matter.

Yes far too many. I think the problem is more the language on drawing or just wielding then on dual-wielding, but hopefully clarification comes.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

The first thing he needs to do is errata the term about swapping weapons before and after an attack.... to read attack action.

But... all of that is already listed under the entry for the Attack action...

Does draw/stow get mentioned somewhere else too?

My friend reads that as a fighter with 4 attacks, a Nick attack, and a bonus action with Dual Wielder as being able to make 12 sheath/wield actions along with all those attacks in a 6 second period.

Nick does apply for the juggling, because it makes the extra attack become a part of the Attack action. So 10 sheath/wields is correct... but you also have the free object interaction, which bumps that up to 12!

Yeah, it's a multi-step process, could be smoother.

 

[TexasToaster]

I am not disagreeing with you Fluffy. I think you agreed with everything I stated, which is part of the problem. As it is written, it seems horribly stupid. If I had told people that we can do 6 attacks, 7 moves going 30+ ft, 12 sheath/wields, and possibly a shout to a friend, and an action surge all in 6 seconds before now, people would have called me crazy.

The whole thing seems like someone was drunk and was dared to write the dumbest way to do combat while high on hallucinogenic mushrooms/truffles. Not even Bruce Lee would try to sheath 6 sharp objects and wield 6 others and make 6 attacks in that period of time. If you try that in combat, you are going to slip and run a dagger 8 inches into your gut and die.

Remember, we are not talking about seasoned fighters. A lot of this can be done within the first few levels. It is illogical. I just want it stated that this is how D&D works now by the Devs; if it is then I won't be using 5.24.

 

[pukunui]

Well, the 2024 PHB is now officially out for everyone, so hopefully we'll get some official errata and/or sage advice soon!

 

[TexasToaster]

Well, the 2024 PHB is now officially out for everyone, so hopefully we'll get some official errata and/or sage advice soon!

Hope so. I understand there was a lot of screw ups with the pre-orders auto canceling. They have not had a smooth launch so far.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

The powder horn in the DMG is a type of grenade.

That's uh... that's weird. I mean, you could blow up a powder horn, but that's not what they're for.

It’s not actually required to use firearms, which still explicitly included powder as part of their ammunition.

Is there any mention of it in the new PHB? I couldn't find it. But either way, yeah, I guess the "bullets" include cartridge and wadding, that's fine.

 

[Echohawk]

I realise that this question is slightly off-thread, because it addresses potential errata rather than actual differences between the print and digital versions of the PHB, but... how much do tools weigh, according to the PHB 2024?

Some notes:

• I only have access to the D&D Beyond version, so I can't check the print book.
• On D&D Beyond, the Tools entry says "A tool’s description includes the tool’s cost and weight"
• However, the individual entries for the tools do not list weights, except for the musical instruments.
• The 2014 PHB had a table listing the tools, which included cost and weight.
• There doesn't appear to be a corresponding table in the 2024 PHB (at least not the digital version).

Given this, I'm not sure if the digital version is missing a table, or both the print and digital versions are missing a table, or the table was removed for space reasons, but someone forgot to add weights to the descriptions. Or maybe there are tool weights somewhere in the digital PHB and I'm just not seeing them.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I realise that this question is slightly off-thread, because it addresses potential errata rather than actual differences between the print and digital versions of the PHB, but... how much do tools weigh, according to the PHB 2024?

Some notes:

• I only have access to the D&D Beyond version, so I can't check the print book.
• On D&D Beyond, the Tools entry says "A tool’s description includes the tool’s cost and weight"
• However, the individual entries for the tools do not list weights, except for the musical instruments.
• The 2014 PHB had a table listing the tools, which included cost and weight.
• There doesn't appear to be a corresponding table in the 2024 PHB (at least not the digital version).

Given this, I'm not sure if the digital version is missing a table, or both the print and digital versions are missing a table, or the table was removed for space reasons, but someone forgot to add weights to the descriptions. Or maybe there are tool weights somewhere in the digital PHB and I'm just not seeing them.

Not that I can find. Presumably we can look it up in 2014 for now. Though looking it up there, I know that my Mother, who is a Weaver, would laugh to see that "Weaver's Tools" are 5 pounds. Tell that to her six looms!

(Though I suppose D&D equipment tools are for travel-versions of whatever the tools are, it's not like the smith is carrying around a full forge. Honestly, some of these things should barely be able to do their jobs with only the travel-versions. How to you blow glass without a full furnace?)

 

[Charlaquin]

That's uh... that's weird. I mean, you could blow up a powder horn, but that's not what they're for.

It’s indeed very weird. But at least in the 2014 PHB it’s listed in the explosives table, not the ammunition table.

Is there any mention of it in the new PHB? I couldn't find it.

Oh, I guess not in the new PHB. My mistake.

 

[Echohawk]

Though looking it up there, I know that my Mother, who is a Weaver, would laugh to see that "Weaver's Tools" are 5 pounds. Tell that to her six looms! (Though I suppose D&D equipment tools are for travel-versions of whatever the tools are, it's not like the smith is carrying around a full forge. Honestly, some of these things should barely be able to do their jobs with only the travel-versions. How to you blow glass without a full furnace?)

My partner is a potter, and would be similarly amused by the 3 lb. Potter tools. Even a traveling potter still needs a kiln. In my head I'm picturing a tiny, light-weight artificer-designed portable kiln that reaches temperatures high enough to fire pots using alchemy. But even for something like that, 3 lb is very low, and ignores how much raw clay or other necessary tools weigh.