Bob the World Builder Interviews Kyle Brink

[Charlaquin]

Enhh..seems like both are true. It's much the same as..

We'd love to partner with you in a mutually beneficial relationship...

But..

If you don't partner with us, we'll be happy to sue you instead.

Sure, but consider the context. It’s pretty much a given that if you leak confidential information from the company you work for and get caught, you’re gonna get fired. Whoever the leaker(s) is(/are), they must have already known that was a risk and been willing to accept it. So, “If you don’t come forward, we’ll fire you if we find out who you are” isn’t an effective threat. It was already implicit, and the leaker(s) went through with leaking the information anyway. This comment only suggests a gentler alternative: come forward, and we’ll be more inclined to work with you on a recovery plan rather than just firing you outright.” That’s the new information for the leaker(s) here.

Now, granted, if I had been responsible for a leak like this, I probably wouldn’t trust an offer to be more lenient if I came forward myself. If anything I’d take it as a sign that they have been unsuccessful in trying to track down the source of the leaks, and the safest thing to do would be to keep quiet and let it blow over. But point is, this doesn’t come across as a threat because of course the leaker(s) would be fired if they got caught. This is only an offer of leniency if they come forward.

 

[Yaarel]

Oof. Leakers are in trouble. Kyle pretty much said they need to come forward to management or else.

The good news is, management doesnt know who these whistleblowers are.

 

[Gammadoodler]

Sure, but consider the context. It’s pretty much a given that if you leak confidential information from the company you work for and get caught, you’re gonna get fired. Whoever the leaker(s) is(/are), they must have already known that was a risk and been willing to accept it. So, “If you don’t come forward, we’ll fire you if we find out who you are” isn’t an effective threat. It was already implicit, and the leaker(s) went through with leaking the information anyway. This comment only suggests a gentler alternative: come forward, and we’ll be more inclined to work with you on a recovery plan rather than just firing you outright.” That’s the new information for the leaker(s) here.

Now, granted, if I had been responsible for a leak like this, I probably wouldn’t trust an offer to be more lenient if I came forward myself. If anything I’d take it as a sign that they have been unsuccessful in trying to track down the source of the leaks, and the safest thing to do would be to keep quiet and let it blow over. But point is, this doesn’t come across as a threat because of course the leaker(s) would be fired if they got caught. This is only an offer of leniency if they come forward.

Depends on the disciplinary culture within the organization.

If leakers know "it could be bad" without knowing specifically how bad it could be, a clarification of the consequences could serve as an effective threat.

Plenty of folks don't really know what the potential consequences of their actions are.

 

[ThorinTeague]

No, it is not weird. I find your insistence that it is weird the odd thing really. I'm 49 and have seen this type of situation a lot. It seems completely reasonable. Doesn't mean it is not a farce, but it 100% can happen naturally and does every day.

Yes it’s a completely culturally acceptable common occurrence, this worthless sham we all pretend is life.

 

[Yaarel]

Haven't come back to Dark Sun the setting because it has problematic elements and it is difficult to be faithful to the source material and update to current standards.

It is nice to have semi-official confirmation. WotC found it too difficult to update Dark Sun.

This corroborates that in the Spelljammer setting, the planet Fyreen in Doomspace, was originally the planet Athas in the "Athasspace" of the Dark Sun setting. This Dark Sun setting was the previously announced "cameo" setting.

Likely, the main problematic of Dark Sun is the existence of a slave race (Mul), and slavery in general.

It was surprising that the Spelljammer setting was cautious about Dark Sun, but at the same time allowed other problematics, including the origin of the Hadozee as a slave race, as well as the adventure requiring players to commit genocide.

 

[darjr]

It is nice to have semi-official confirmation. WotC found it too difficult to update Dark Sun.

This corroborates that in the Spelljammer setting, the planet Fyreen in Doomspace, was originally the planet Athas in the "Athasspace" of the Dark Sun setting. This Dark Sun setting was the previously announced "cameo" setting. The

The main problematic is the existence of a slave race (Mul), and slavery in general.

It was surprising that the Spelljammer setting was cautious about Dark Sun, but at the same time allowed other problematics, including the origin of the Hadozee as a slave race, as well as the adventure requiring players to commit genocide.

How does this video confirm that?

 

[Yaarel]

How does this video confirm that?

I said corroborate.

The part that is confirmed is, WotC considered the Dark Sun setting, but found it too "difficult" to actually publish it for 5e.

We can see from various features, including the Thri-kreen species, a defiler mechanic, and so on, there was some active effort to do Dark Sun.

 

[Incenjucar]

I think it is fair for WotC to recognize that they lack the skill sets to handle Dark Sun properly.

 

[Retreater]

Maybe they can just turn over Dark Sun to another publisher or the DMs Guild?

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Here is the section of the transcript. The tone of his voice at the end becomes more serious so you’ll have to listen and judge for your self. But all of those consequences, to me, mean that the employee is in trouble.

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Yeah that doesn’t mean what you implied it means, IMO.

Or at least, i think you’re misreading the tone. He’s pretty clearly offering an out to someone who would normally just be terminated, regardless of Kyle’s feelings on the matter.

The more accurate summary would be, “Wow Kyle Brink is really trying to avoid the leakers being in big trouble!”