Book of Vile Darkness

[Codragon]

I am looking forward to the BoVD like no other D&D book except perhaps the 3E PHB.

We're all speculating here, so.....

I think the BoVD will "put D&D on the map" so to speak. It will be a groundbreaking book and will spawn a host of similiar EVIL adventures and accessories. MWAHAHAHA!!

It may stir up lots of negative attention in the National Media. This will be a good thing as bad press is better than no press. This will make the BoVD one of the best selling D&D products ever and draw more and more new folks into the hobby. Realize this nation is less conservative than it was in the early 80s when the anti-D&D craze was strong.

Another point: If you don't like it, don't buy it.

I could be wrong. Maybe this will spell the downfall of the D&D brand. No matter. I still will have my books and will game on.

 

[Dr Midnight]

...And all virgins are not female, as I'm sure you are a prime example of.

That was unnecessary.

 

[Psion]

Meanwhile, shut the hell up about how I shouldn't use a book in my game because you don't use it, and therefore it shouldn't be published.

Y'know what, that's just rude. Sure, you may not care that someone disagrees with you, but when you get that rude, you are crossing the line.

 

[MeepoTheMighty]

I'll buy it because I'm Monte's be-yotch.

*fails will save to resist buying another Monte product*

 

[Ristamar]

And you think that this is the kind of thing that Monte Cook is going to do in the BoVD?

Well, since I haven't actually read the book yet, I don't really know (but, knowing Mr. Cook's previous work, I find it highly unlikely).

I take it, however, that you haven't read the book either, so you're just blowing smoke here. There's no evidence that this is the kind of content we're going to find when we flip through the BoVD.

Considering how the other D&D books have been written, I doubt we'll find anything remotely similar to what you've described here.

I agree with the 'Spider.

I'll even go a step further and say that using Tolkien as a moral guideline is horrendously out of of touch with today's standards. I'm not berating Tolkien, or trying to promote the violent/graphic/sexual culture we live in today... I just call 'em as I see 'em.

The last call-to-arms against RPG's came at a period of time when media and entertainent was far more conservative than it is today. Sure it was only about 20 years ago, but think of how much has changed in those 20 years. South Park used the word 'sh*t' about 160 times in one half hour episode. It's not entirely uncommon to hear the words 'co****cker' or 'mo******cker' on primetime television (NYPD Blue, The Shield, etc). I haven't even touched radio or the music industry yet. I could go on and on and on....

The BoVD would have to be something truly disconcerting to even faintly register on the radar these days. Anything less, and you're merely jumping at shadows.

 

[Hakkenshi]

A little OT, but Hakkenshi, I love the illustrations on your page. nicely done!

Thanks, just don't expect me to concede because of that

Without going to Meepo's extreme (since we all know that Kobolds have low Will saves ), I'd say that having Monte Cook as an author definitely increases my chances of purchasing a book. So far, the only d20 publication on which he's worked that I don't have is CoC. And I've flipped through that too.

But if Bruce Cordell had written it, I'd still buy it.

I think that really, WotC is not trying pull a marketing ploy on us all, they're just trying to REALLY cover their tracks by throwing out warning after warning, just so that a parent can't drag them into an idiotic lawsuit about warping their children's minds toward Satan.

 

[Wolfspider]

And all virgins are not female, as I'm sure you are a prime example of.

Tiefling is a prime example of a female? Whoah! Someone post a pic!

 

[Furn_Darkside]

The last call-to-arms against RPG's came at a period of time when media and entertainent was far more conservative than it is today.

I don't think it is a matter of the social slant of the media but how bored they are- last summer when nothing was going on: Shark Attacks and Chandra Levy ruled the air.

This summer it is child kidnapping- you would think it was an epidemic instead of a very sad standard state of affair.

If the media was bored when this book came out and it got their attention, they might make a big deal of it.

But- this is an election year, and the book comes out near poll times. The media has its toy. The politicians have other things to worry about this fall.

But, you never know!

FD

 

[Ristamar]

You might also find that it's illegal in your state. I think it is in mine ....

Very true. But the real question is, have you heard or known of anyone getting arrested for it (and only it)?

 

[Nathanael]

My dear Haashenti, I would never blow smoke up your backside to get you to concede! That would be political and I actually care about this topic!

Furn! You agree with me on something! The Media will take any subject matter like a pit bull with a bone if it finds it interesting, hence, my bother. It could cause serious backlash for gaming in general. Just ask a certain Californian senator.

And, to further illustrate my point, why release something that you have to put out warning after warning about in order to avoid bad press? Like I said, it would be enough, I think, to release the BoVD under another, non- D&D game line. If it is, infact, not aimed at the mainstream and will sell anyway, why advertise it in Dragon and Dungeon? Children have subscriptions to those magazines as well, and one can only imagine the horror on a parents face when they get issue #300 in the mail...