Book of Vile Darkness

[Numion]

Not to point fingers at anyone in particular, but I think that many people are salivating over this book as something that they can defend as 'frank and mature' gaming material instead of what it really: old fashioned, can't get laid, take it in the bedroom with a box of kleenex Porn.

Don't you think that those people would rather spend their money on, well, porn than an expensive book? I'm sorry to invoke logic in this oh-so-emotional thread, but come on.

 

[Roderick]

I`ll definitly buy it, in order to see, if this book can teach this cynical, jaded, forty years old GM a few new tricks to frighten his players.

I doubt it, but you never know.

 

[Maraxle]

I think rules for a villain selling his soul are very useful.

I think that having rules around this is weak. Something like this should be done with imagination instead of consulting a chart. You say it's a staple of literature and stuff, but has it ever been handled the same way twice? I'd guess not. The *big evil entity* can do whatever it chooses. If it wants to give one villain 1,000,000 XP and another a bucket of fried chicken for the villain's soul, it can. If you mean how the villain contacts the *big evil entity*, that should be left to interpretation as well.

I think the book should be renamed The Book of Vile Lack of Imagination.

 

[Buttercup]

Since the moderators removed the content from the post I was complaining about here, I thought I should delete my comments. Thanks for cleaning it up, Darkness!

 

[Lady Dragon]

To those like Nathanel who are screaming that we don't need a book like this I say what do you know that I don't? Did you get a private preveiw and are aware of the exact content, because I missed that preveiw. I hate to break your wild imagination but the book's not going to be that bad. The art will feature some barely dressed babes and some violence and the content will be mild. The will stay away from sexual topics and stay mostly to violence,any one who thinks otherwise is dreaming. I think there will be a great deal on things like demonology and evil rituals and the like. In fact I think a lot of people will be very disappointed with the mild content since they seem to be expecting something X-rated.

 

[Numion]

I think that having rules around this is weak. Something like this should be done with imagination instead of consulting a chart. You say it's a staple of literature and stuff, but has it ever been handled the same way twice? I'd guess not.

Magic is a staple of literature and stuff, but has it ever been handled the same way twice? I'd guess not.

Still D&D has rules for magic. Go figure.

 

[Hakkenshi]

Oddly enough, it seems that only the detractors of this book are the ones all excited about the alleged X-rated content of the book, and about accusing others of trying to find some unhealthy pleasure in reading it. Err...it's a GAMING book.

Monte Cook wrote it, just as he wrote the Book of Eldritch Might. I don't know about you, but I got no Eldritch Might myself from the book, do you expect us to succumb to Vile Darkness from reading this one?

I must say I love how people condemn UPCOMING books without having read a single page ("Vile Lack of Imagination???"). Where do you people GET this stuff???

 

[Zaukrie]

I'm pretty offended (not easy to do) by the comment that this is some kind of porn book. I'm sure Monte and anyone else who worked on it is too.

I'm interested in this book because I've tried to write rules over the years on how to give people power from sacrificing things. Those who say these rules aren't needed: how did you feel about the Demonology rules? How did you feel about the rules in the Green Ronin book (kind remember if it was Abyss or Hell) where a (N)PC could "bond" with an evil entity? How did you feel about Defilers, Blood Mages, or Blight Magic? I think that rules on the power that evil gets from doing evil helps explain why they do it. Understanding your enemy is always a powerful tool. As for those who say you can just imagine this, and that this is a tool for those without imagination, you could say that about Occult Lore, Alchemists and Herbalists, Spells and Magic....Do you feel the same about those books?

BTW, if there are rules for sacrifice, couldn't you flip those and give power for sving things? How about for sacrificing gold? What about converting a Demon to Good? I'd think it would be easier to extrapolate how to give good power, if I had rules on how evil got more power. That's part of my plan, anyway.

 

[Wolfspider]

Not to point fingers at anyone in particular, but I think that many people are salivating over this book as something that they can defend as 'frank and mature' gaming material instead of what it really: old fashioned, can't get laid, take it in the bedroom with a box of kleenex Porn.

Man, there's too much free porn on the internet for me to use an expensive gaming book as masturbatory material and risk getting it all messed up. (I learned that lesson with some of my high school yearbooks.)

Sheesh. You've got to think practically about these things.

 

[Xarlen]

Oh, yes, I'm going to get all hot and bothered by gory, violent pictures with half naked chicks. Probably some witches and hags swimming in blood. Yep, and those rules for soul-sacrifice and demon summoning right there just add the icing on the cake. Oh Baby.

Infact, all the D20 art just gets my blood flowing. Whoo boy.

Please make a Will Save vs. a DC 12 to sarcasm.