Booting players - What are your nightmare stories?

I've booted numerous players over the years for a variety of reasons. The hardest was a guy who had played in our WFRP campaign for over two years. He loved the game. He was into his character. He constantly asked for more background information and made every effort to deeply emesh himself in the campaign. He was a great player and I really liked him.

I didn't really notice some of his attitude towards the other players. He was condescending towards women, which naturally drove two of my female players mad. But his kiss of death was he criticized my brother's roleplaying style. I am very close to my brother and he was one of the main reasons I kept the campaign rolling. My bro eventually approached me with a 'him or me' ultimatum.

When I told the player he was not invited back because the other players had issues with him - he cried. It was a sincere emotion and I have not felt that bad in a long, long time. I usually am relieved to kick players out, but this was a tough one.
 

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I don't know that I'd say "alarming frequency" just because every example here is a really small slice of the overall gaming populace. I for one have only played with one guy that had to be kicked out of a group for massive BO and being a complete jackass. That's 1 guy in the last, what, 15 or so years of gaming? That's not bad at all IMO.

Reveal hits the nail on the head for the most part. People want to get away from their mundane lives and be the star in the game. When the group's wishes conflict with an agressive personality, then the ca-ca hits the fan in some cases.

Kane
 

Had the exerience once or twice...sorta. Was doing a game for some friends at (high) school who were all new to the game. I invited this fellow along because he was a member of my regular group and I thought hed be a good one to do some hand holding. I was mistaken.

I remember telling him that I was trying to establish a "one for all and all for one" feel, trying to keep it positive for the newbies. And he did just the opposite...right off the cuff he got himself into a skirmish with one of the other players, stole someone else's stuff, and ended up battling someone else to the death. Afterward I said "What the F was THAT?" and he laughed his ass off.

Didnt hold it against him cuz he was really just trying to have some fun with me, and I could tell he really meant no ill will. All the same I said the group probly wasn't for him. He agreed.

Then I had to go back in and try to convince some of the others to came back again.

I have a strict policy of only playing with friends. (I've tried posting at the game shop, but all I got were the weirdos.) I've got one buddy whos the dearest of friends, (super good guy, best man at my wedding etc) but for some reason he turns into an utter creep when you put some dice in his hands. (I've stopped trying to figure it out) I've stopped running a campaign twice because of his disruptive style of gaming. Just couldnt bring myself to boot him. Fortunately it doesnt take long for his colors to show, so no big loss of a well develpoed campaign anyway.
 

In my current campaign, I have had to boot a total of 7 players since the game started last year.

1st booting:::
I was desperate for players for my campaign early last year, and the only people whom answered my requests was this guy, his brother, his brother's two friends and his girlfriend. At first he wanted his eight year old brother to play as well but I was already pushing the limit with letting 15 and 16 year olds in my campaign (the guys brother and his two friends were all this age). I explained my campaign from the beginning and told them all it was RPG intensive and all seemed great with that. That was my first mistake believing that everyone was ok with an RPG playing style.

The sessions started off bad. They canceled the very first session they were suppose to be at. Over the next four weeks, one of the brother's friends missed 3 sessions. I told the group that I had to ask him to leave the group. Over the course of the next 3 months, we played 4 times. Most of the sessions were canceled at the last minute by the teenage players. During the last twoo weeks, before i had enough, the older (25 year old guy) no showed. When I say no showed I mean didn't call until the day after we were about to play. I had had enough. I was legitally worried the last time as we had a bad storm and I thought something had happened. I called the guy, cursed him out, and told kicked him and his friends out of the group. The only person I regret losing was one of the brothers' friends as he was the only good player out the group. The situation was frustrationg and upsetting. I was relieved at the end because the guy seemed wierd from teh beginning. When we went to gencon he made his girlfriend sleep on the floor and on a recliner because they didnt' believe in sleeping with each other. I"m all for a person's believes but there's no way i'm letting any woman sleep on the floor.

2nd Booting

I had to put the campaign on hold again. This time however, I picked up three more players, two were a couple and one was a woman whom seemed like she was really into it at first. She played 2 sessions and no showed the next. Then she played another and completely disappeared for a month. I called and emailed with no response. I was worried. A month later she calls me wanting back in to the campaign. She said she had personal reasons for disappearing. Im understanding so i let it slide. But it put me in an ackward situation as I had already replaced her as a player with another guy whom lives in the apartment complex I just moved in. But I figured there was room for two clerics in the party.

So she comes the first game and she seems pissed off that there was another cleric there. I couldn't understand how she could be upset considering how she disappeared. So the next week she sits right next to the new cleric. that's when the wierd stuff happened. At first I thought she was trying to get to know the guy, trying to soften things. But they started talking and flirting and by mid game her head was burried in his chest. It was very very wierd for the other people in the campaign. I normally don't allow much out of game banter but, as a guy, I didn't want to mess his game up. I did call both outside of game and told them that their acting was inapproriate. The next two sessions was even more sickening. I drew the straw when he pulled out his baby photo album in the middle of combat. After session I called both up and told them that I am happy they found love but i think they need to find another campaign.

I hoped that we all could be friends but he then sent me an email back critisizing my dming style (one that he loved a few weeks ago). Now I see them all the time, she moved in with him, but we havn't spoken since we exchanged those final emails.
 

fusangite said:
The main problem playing with her was recently expressed by a college professor from whom she took a course recently: "Is it just me or does _________ tend to remember me saying things I haven't said and recall events that haven't happened?"

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Therefore, anyone who had a problem with her highly erratic character or whose in-game agenda differed from that of her character must actually hate her and wish to harm her IRL. Any disapproval of her increasingly insane character was taken as the deepest-possible insult

My mentally ill ex-wife would routinely have nightmares where she dreamt that someone did something to her, then would seem to have extreme difficulty discerning dream events from real life events. She had serious issues with the idea that I was completely uninterested in apologizing for things she dreamt that I did.

The worst was having those bizarro claims coming up during the divorce process. How do you defend yourself against the utterly insane dreams of a mad woman?

Other times she would fade off into evil thoughts, *think* someone said something bad about her and react accordingly. Very strange to have her burst into tears, screaming "you heard what she said about me!!!" after a pleasant visit from her best friend.

The icing on the cake was the very idea that anyone who did such things in her dreams or in her dark thoughts must be out to get her. Me, her parents, her friends, the bank...

A word to the wise for anyone who knows someone like this. Run. Run like a hasted 30th level Monk/Barbarian who just drank a barrel of Mountain Dew.
 

I haven't booted anyone yet. I have been booted twice. Once in the "sneaky" way (damned effective on the sneaky part! I only found out later when the same DM didn't even want to be a player in a game I was a player in) and once in a "mutual agreement that our styles don't mesh" kind of way.

I think that talking is the more adult thing to do, but you make your own decisions. Maybe a "dude, we like you, but not as a gamer" sort of thing?

In the long run, stuff happens. I got over it eventually.
 

We, as a group, had to boot one DM's girlfriend. She was loud, a bit obnoxious, loved to be the center of attention, etc... It got to the boiling point when she and he got into a loud verbal argument over the semantics of village vs. town... It was then that some of my fellow players got with him and told him that she wasn't "fitting" with the group. She was driving all of us nuts with her behavior. I was glad to see her go, then we could really get back to the fun we'd had before and now have! :)
 

I've never had to boot players. Out here in Ohio farm country, the problem is finding players! I've Dm'ed for 27 years, every player I've ever had has been introduced to the game by me, and brought along until they moved away. At current count, that's 39 players in 27 years. We have no FLGS, just Walden Books at the mall 30 minutes away. I wish I had someplace to post for players! Online doesn't work, as no one lives close enough. I have gotten both my daughters and a couple of their friends involved.

When I taught high school, it was easy to get older students into the games. But I recently "semi-retired" to an elementary teaching job, and those third graders just sren't up for a game :lol: .

Sigh... to boot or be booted just once. :uhoh:
 

Waldorf said:
What is it about this hobby that attracts such people with alarming frequency?
I don't think people with emotional or social problems are necessarily drawn to D&D more than other hobbies, though D&D -- as a "geek hobby" -- is one of those that are acceptable to introverted people, and there's a correlation between introversion and conditions like depression. I would imagine, for example, that a hobby like, oh, scrapbooking, also gets its fair share of folks like some of those described in this thread.

One of the other types of problem players -- the aggressive, overbearing, argumentative type -- can actually fit in with other hobbies. I used to play league volleyball with a guy who turned out to also be a gamer, and he behaved exactly the same in both hobbies: very gung-ho, aggressive, winning-is-everything. The thing is, in competitive volleyball, that's acceptable, and sometimes even desirable; in gaming, not so much.
 

I booted a player once, after my third session ever. He was disturbing the game and chaotic. Before I did it I asked the two other players and a player who was about to join the group what they thought about booting him. They said it would be the best and two where actually happy about it.
So I did it and though he was sure pissed, things went about allright. So everything was ok I thought. Till I heard of him I would have acted all on my own and it was just because I didn't like him. So I asked him and the three others and found out:
Each of them told him that they didn't have part in the decision.
That didn't feel good, you can be shure about that.
 

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