Boxed Sets 2018 Style

Gamers here have long called out for a return of the classic boxed sets of 2nd Edition, especially for campaign settings and mega adventures.
The accepted wisdom is that boxed sets are simply too expensive. That they're cost prohibitive.

And yet...

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Here we have the collector's edition of Art & Arcana, the D&D Art book by Ten Speed Press.
And... isn't this a freakin' boxed set?!

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So, would you like a similar approach done for other books, where you have a regular hardcover and a collector's box with maps and other accessories?
 

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robus

Lowcountry Low Roller
Supporter
Well the MSRP is $125 though Amazon has it for 50% off so either the profit margin is massive or they’re really trying to kill the FLGS...
 


Parmandur

Book-Friend
The base Starter Set is also a box set, and has sold well for years.

Biggest downside for a EotC game product, though, is browsability: hard to flip through a boxed adventure set in the store.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
They're still around. The D&D Starter Set is a boxed set. Rodney Thompson's Dusk City Outlaws and Spectaculars are boxed sets.

Sure, there are premium ones, too (Invisible Sun, that Beadle & Grimm's platinum edition of Waterdeep: Dragon Heist) but they're not all super-expensive.
 

I don't think "too expensive" is the issue. I think it's more a case that they take up too much shelf space for non-specialist high street bookshops to stock.
 


Nah, for many of us it is.

I'm talking from the publisher's perspective, not the purchaser's.

Products like the one in the OP have a very high mark-up because the publisher only expects to sell a very small number of units, and they are not intended to be sold through high street bookshops.
 

Azzy

KMF DM
I'm talking from the publisher's perspective, not the purchaser's.

Products like the one in the OP have a very high mark-up because the publisher only expects to sell a very small number of units, and they are not intended to be sold through high street bookshops.

Ah, that makes more sense.
 

dave2008

Legend
Yes, I think now though it would have to come with more than I got in my old BECMI boxed sets. I think that you could sell the book and then a boxed set with the book, maps, handouts, etc. like you suggest.
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
I don't want core rule box sets. I want adventure box sets. Like Beadle & Grimm, but focused on minis and battlemaps and less on tchotchkes. Give me EVERYTHING I need to run the adventure. An affordably priced option would have paper battlemaps and punch out cardboard counters/pogs. A premium option would have wizkids pre-painted minis and maybe some premium poster maps, cloth maps, and hand outs.

Beadle & Grimm's is heading in the right direction, but I worry it is priced too high to be successful. I would like to see something similar but priced so that it could be sold in Target and which an average middle-class parent or grandparent would consider buying it a gift.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
I don't want core rule box sets. I want adventure box sets. Like Beadle & Grimm, but focused on minis and battlemaps and less on tchotchkes. Give me EVERYTHING I need to run the adventure. An affordably priced option would have paper battlemaps and punch out cardboard counters/pogs. A premium option would have wizkids pre-painted minis and maybe some premium poster maps, cloth maps, and hand outs.

Beadle & Grimm's is heading in the right direction, but I worry it is priced too high to be successful. I would like to see something similar but priced so that it could be sold in Target and which an average middle-class parent or grandparent would consider buying it a gift.

Issue there is, the adventure books already give most groups everything they need: text, maps, and handouts. Miniatures or physical representation of any kind are not a universal feature of play.
 

I don't want core rule box sets. I want adventure box sets. Like Beadle & Grimm, but focused on minis and battlemaps and less on tchotchkes. Give me EVERYTHING I need to run the adventure. An affordably priced option would have paper battlemaps and punch out cardboard counters/pogs. A premium option would have wizkids pre-painted minis and maybe some premium poster maps, cloth maps, and hand outs.

Beadle & Grimm's is heading in the right direction, but I worry it is priced too high to be successful. I would like to see something similar but priced so that it could be sold in Target and which an average middle-class parent or grandparent would consider buying it a gift.

The B&G set has more than 2 dozen minis and dozens of battlemaps
 

Rhylthar

Explorer
I would like to have something like this for 5E:
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I own all the boxes of Forgotten Realms, Planescape, Dragonlance and Greyhawk. I really like them a lot more than "books only".
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
Issue there is, the adventure books already give most groups everything they need: text, maps, and handouts. Miniatures or physical representation of any kind are not a universal feature of play.

Well, sure. They could continue to sell the book as it and a separate supplement set.
 



Parmandur

Book-Friend
Right, but the price point is not going to work for most DMs.

Hasbro should be able to sell a much more modestly priced set with less premium components.

B&G was going to have less premium boxes; those seem to have disappeared?

Maybe there isn't a major, viable market for more-than the Starter Set but less-than the B&G? WotC has tried before, but none of those products seemed to last.
 

gyor

Legend
Issue there is, the adventure books already give most groups everything they need: text, maps, and handouts. Miniatures or physical representation of any kind are not a universal feature of play.

The key market for box sets isn't APs, it's settings, which simply aren't being given enough meat.
 

I don't want core rule box sets. I want adventure box sets. Like Beadle & Grimm, but focused on minis and battlemaps and less on tchotchkes. Give me EVERYTHING I need to run the adventure. An affordably priced option would have paper battlemaps and punch out cardboard counters/pogs. A premium option would have wizkids pre-painted minis and maybe some premium poster maps, cloth maps, and hand outs.

Beadle & Grimm's is heading in the right direction, but I worry it is priced too high to be successful. I would like to see something similar but priced so that it could be sold in Target and which an average middle-class parent or grandparent would consider buying it a gift.

I still remember owning the ultima 9 box with it's cloth map of Britannia.

Oh my lordy, give me a tea towel map of the sword coast and some fake parchment letters and I'll run you an adventure!
 

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