Broken Feat (Savage Species)

[jayaint]

Has the "Roll with it Feat" from SS been errata'd? If so, is there a link for that?

With the Prereqs of Con 20 & Toughness, this feat provides DR 2/- and appears to be stackable and re-take-able (is that a word?) an unlimited no. of times.

So does this mean that a dwarven fighter could, with 18 CON (becoming 20 w/ racial bonus at 1st level) who takes Toughness @ first level could have DR 6/- @ 9th level and still have all 5 fighter feats to play with AND (in v 3.5) retain full movement in heavy armor?

Broken??

Anyone, Bueller? Bueller?

Thanks.

edit: I'm an idiot... not 18 STR... 18 CON... all better now.

 

[Dr_Rictus]

Nope. Seems pretty fair for three feats. And the dwarf who starts with a 20 CON is an outlying case anyway.

 

[kreynolds]

Seems fine to me as well.

 

[jayaint]

Seems fine to me as well.

even the stackability...? I can understand getting DR in 3 feats. That doesn't bother me... just the stackable, unlimited nature seems a bit off putting.

That's all.

Thanks for the responses, though.

 

[kreynolds]

even the stackability...?

Yup. By spending 4 feats to get DR 8/-, the character could have picked up the Toughness feat chain for a jolt of bonus hit points, or any other chain, for that matter. The sacrifice justifies it, IMO.

 

[Darklone]

The DM might show a tendency though to throw real big monsters with few big damage attacks at him instead of some small mooks with many attacks and less damage.

Or fireballs.

 

[Dr_Rictus]

even the stackability...?

4 feats in several of the standard feat chains can go a long way. And the fact that it stacks without limit doesn't bother me because the damage that high-level creatures do increases, in the long run, a lot faster than 2 points every 3 levels.

 

[Darklone]

Might be interesting with a Dwarven Defender... though that class needs some feats as prerequs...

 

[LokiDR]

Level 18 dwarf monk. DR 12/-, SR, good saves, evasion, mobility, hide and move silent as class skill. Seems pretty tough, right?

Time stop, horrid wilting, horrid wilting. While flying and persistant improved invis. I think that is nastier.

Cleric, all the shield feets and divine might. Persistan divine power and rightous might. Considering the nastiness of the divine/shield feats, I call that nastier.

No, I don't think the feat goes above and beyond a lot of powergamed characters. It beats toughness by itself, hands down, but that isn't saying much. I would say it is better than dragon's toughness.

In any low power game, it can get nasty. The average fighter will not be able to beat through that DR fast enough not to die (Regdar does 2d6+17 at 15th level). I say it is too much for a non-SS game. Then again, SS has spells like "blindsight" at 2nd level and a feat that lets you throw characters up to 600 feet.